Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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WilderSueden

2023-06-22 11:09:44
  • #1
Only, the 100k after 45 years are not worth 100k. With 2% inflation, that corresponds rather to 40k in today's money, then you still have to pay taxes on the nominal gain (so also on the inflation). After taxes, at best, only a third of the 100k remains. From that, you can then withdraw about a hundred euros of today's purchasing power per month. For retirement provision, you have to go big, not small. The real problem with this story is not knowledge or preparation. It is the multiple burden of, on the one hand, paying high pension contributions for the older generation, and on the other hand, providing for your own old age. And then you should also have children to stabilize the system. It also doesn't really help that the state disguises a subsidy program for the insurance industry as retirement provision. Because a Riester plan is, in most cases, nothing else, and the typical company pension scheme is also bad. The tax and social security contribution advantages during the accumulation phase are largely eaten up by the corresponding burdens during the payout phase, and the high costs and low returns give the scheme the rest. Especially for people who started their working life in the 2010s, Riester and company pensions are worthless due to guarantees combined with zero interest rates.
 

Winniefred

2023-06-22 11:52:57
  • #2


That does not change the fact that we are forced to pay into the current pension fund. We still have a house to pay off, two children to support. We cannot pay into countless pots and also do it in such a way that we end up with a sufficient retirement livelihood.
 

chand1986

2023-06-22 13:16:04
  • #3
We have a folding pleated blind from Insetto. The first of three solutions so far that convinces. And the best: The mesh in BLACK. The white and transparent ones hold up until the first inattentive walk-through. And yes: that happens.
 

chand1986

2023-06-22 13:22:25
  • #4
And I find the pension discussion pointless. A pay-as-you-go system distributes the produced output. If the profits of the producers do not have to pay into the same system, it just drains out with advancing automation, because this lowers the wage share. This is very simple – and the decision-makers have known this for decades.

Much more interesting is the issue of having children: from kindergarten to the first paycheck, they are takers from the pot. Let's say about 20 years.

Raise your hand if you know a government that would survive that...
 

WilderSueden

2023-06-22 13:26:25
  • #5
Merkel and Kohl were not that far off. And if we consider not only real democracies but also "flawless" ones, we can find a few more governments.
 

kati1337

2023-06-22 14:49:29
  • #6

Been there, done that. :cool:



I find the Australian pension system alienating. I know from family circles that a retiree who was a teacher there all her life has to be afraid that she will run out of money in old age. She currently lives in a property she owns and is using up savings. Either you have privately secured a pension there, or you somehow get nothing. If her cash assets ran out, she would have to sell the house first before she gets something from the state like Hartz 4. I find that somehow harsh.
 

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