Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

How is it actually with the chainsaw license, you only need it for "foreign" forests. But what if you show up at "foreign" forests with a handsaw? Or just an axe? Aside from the fact that you should have trained properly for it, can you still be denied woodcutting just because you don't have a chainsaw license?


In the saw course, is only the handling of the chainsaw explained, or also general things like which tree does what, when to fell from which direction, in which direction it will then fall, blah blah blah, etc. pp?

So the saw license can only be required for state/municipal forests. In your private forest, you do whatever you want, so you can fell trees in swim trunks with a Swiss Army knife; it's completely up to you.

Which equipment you use is your choice. Used oil and self-mix are not always well received, which is understandable environmentally. You can forget about felling unless you have very good contacts. So many accidents have happened that private individuals are no longer allowed to do it. Usually, you only get brushwood (stacked at the roadside) and rarely logs, where you can process, for example, crown wood within a designated area. Because much damage was caused or some seriously injured themselves, this is also rather avoided. Additionally, a part of the crowns is supposed to remain in the forest and rot there.

Well, on the topic of dirt, when quantities get a bit bigger, a rake is no longer sufficient. Just calculate how much sawdust accumulates with three-digit quantities...

Interesting. Well, I had read that there are also private forest owners who let others in but often then require a permit. I don't even know: is the owner liable if someone saws while on their property and ends up sawing their own leg off?

Interesting. Well, I had read that there are also private forest owners who let others in but often require the permit. I don’t even know: is the owner liable if someone saws on their property and accidentally saws off their own leg?

The legal aspect is not exactly known to me here. It could be that as a private forest owner you might still be considered an entrepreneur and could be accused of gross negligence when selling standing timber without checking a sawing permit, since the poor firewood collector was obviously not aware of the dangers. As said, this is only a guess; a lot is possible in Germany in this regard... Felling permits have become very expensive, take up to 2 weeks, and there are also specializations like heli-logging, etc., which in turn require separate modules. With the normal sawing permit, you are only allowed to cut lying wood that is not under tension. So, simply put, a delimbed log on the ground.

Hello,

House with wood gasifier, approx. 40 RM consumption per year,

a dumb question, what kind of house is that? Depending on the type of wood, that's 60,000-80,000 kWh of calorific value! Is it really that inefficient or is it an uninsulated barn?!?

Obtaining 40 RM of wood every year, chopping it up and carrying it around is quite a statement. Apart from the fact that it needs to dry for 3 years, so you need space for 3 stacks of 40 RM each? How do you manage that?

Best regards,

Andreas

Morning,

a stupid question, what kind of house is that? Depending on the type of wood, that's 60,000-80,000 kWh of calorific value! Is it really that inefficient or is it an uninsulated barn?!?

Getting 40 RM of wood every year, chopping it up and hauling it around is quite something. Besides the fact that you have to dry it for 3 years, so you need space for 3 stacks of 40 RM each? How do you manage that?

Best regards,

Andreas

It's almost identical for us. Old farmhouse of my parents, if not all rooms are heated, 35 RM are gone. Then three more households and some grill wood, and you're at 100 RM per year.
Space isn't the issue, it's divided into a few stacks out back on the field.
If you're dealing with such quantities, you don't use a 750kg hardware store trailer anymore. If the wood isn't conveniently positioned for transport, I rent a long wood transporter, which costs 250€ and fits a good 40 RM. If it makes two trips, most of it is already home.
Alternatively with the tipper, two people 5 RM in the morning and afternoon, makes 10 RM cut, split, and stacked behind the house or on the field in 33 cm pieces on a Saturday. Cover it with a tarp, done.

... Oh wow, I suspected it, but then let's also correct the half-knowledge...

I'll take that as fitting for a generalization. But for your information: This is not "half-knowledge" but lived reality within our family circle ;)