Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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haydee

2022-12-14 07:56:23
  • #1
For the insulation of old buildings, monument protection must also be adapted. A friend of my father's has an old villa. Facade under monument protection, stucco inside under monument protection, and something else was also under monument protection. Renovation of old buildings is probably necessary, but I don't know if you can simply say to renovate the old building according to KFW standards. Many take the bargain houses with high renovation needs because they are affordable. You can manage with 3 power outlets. If you live inside, you simply renovate and restore as money is available. That can take 15 years or more. Where will these homeowners live in the future?
 

dertill

2022-12-14 08:45:59
  • #2




Insulation measures in existing buildings are usually a subsidy business without strong funding; making this mandatory is unsocial and also ecologically questionable – so it would fit well with the current political zeitgeist.
Most older buildings have weak points worth addressing. Usually, this is not done because people love to treat the environment with the waste heat from their houses, but simply because 1. the knowledge and 2. the money are lacking.
Creating incentives through sensible support (especially in rented properties) and educating people, I find very sensible, especially through uncomplicated low-threshold subsidies. But a mandatory implementation of renovation measures in existing buildings that go beyond current requirements, I consider wrong. Sitting in a newly built house, it is very easy to demand such a mandate; in a 1970s old building in retirement, this means goodbye prosperity, welcome to rental barracks and rubbing hands at the "investor."
This does not help the climate.

Here, residents of old houses with high energy demand are frequently and gladly criticized. Sometimes quite openly, other times the moral arrogance only shines through the one love facade. However, the crux of climate protection does not lie in the mass barracking of less wealthy population groups, but also in the restrictions on owners of double garages and swimming pools with Weber grill beef rump steak parties and especially at those who drive with Porsche to the bakery and to weekend shopping in London, which is not so gladly read here. Old building heaters do contribute to climate change as well. However, this does not justify claiming the monopoly on climate-damaging comfort by the new-build eco-friendly people or young renovators.

Equally well, as a climate protection measure, one could demand the use of bicycles for distances under 5 km or the obligation to adopt a vegan diet. Ultimately, that would be clearly less unsocial, better for the common good (and animal welfare) and probably have a significantly greater effect on the climate – yet that would not be a peace-creating measure for society.

Maybe we should all point less with our fingers at others and especially kick less downward with our feet, but let the weapons rest and create a spirit of togetherness and common good. In the current system, which is also being exploited here, we will not be able to implement real climate protection even with polystyrene mandates.
 

WilderSueden

2022-12-14 08:49:49
  • #3
The problem is that we are now subsidizing these 300 kWh/sqm houses and their "I don't necessarily have to renovate" owners through the gas/electricity/oil/pellet price caps, even though the relief would be much more sustainable if the energy consumption of these houses were reduced. With houses that are energetically so poor, the savings are also simply achievable. A renovation to new building standards is not necessarily required; it would be enough to go from 300 to 100 kWh here. That would also be a two-thirds savings.

And a second problem with this, dear Till, is that the market is distorted if we leave such houses unrenovated. We have also looked at some existing houses, but if you factor in a renovation, you are always outbid by someone who underestimates the renovation costs. As a society, that is not desirable and it has not made the houses more affordable.
 

dertill

2022-12-14 09:01:03
  • #4
More sustainable would be an external and economic policy that does not make such a measure necessary in the first place. Blaming the residents of the old houses now and forcing them to renovate is easy, but it will help neither you nor them nor the climate. Anyone who wants people to renovate their houses must create incentives for it (energy prices, surcharges, subsidies) and on the other hand provide people with the means, i.e. money for it. The former was done in the past, but at the same time people’s real wages were cut by active policy, thus depriving them of the means for renovation.



The regulation to carry out at least measure a and b within x years when acquiring a property anew can be discussed. But that is something different from the obligation in the existing stock.
 

WilderSueden

2022-12-14 09:22:51
  • #5
Let's take it easy. We have been talking for at least 10 years about the need to energetically renovate the existing building stock. And apart from the last 1.5 years, inflation was always low. So low, in fact, that the ECB no longer knew how to increase it. Until a few years ago, construction costs were also significantly lower, with low interest rates. Those who acted proactively were able to renovate and are now experiencing faster amortization. But just as politics has approached the issue half-heartedly (no comprehensive renovation obligations), the vast majority of homeowners have postponed the issue into the future. Energy was relatively cheap, after all, and a renovation would not pay off. Now we have a mess because the pressure to renovate is increasing at a time when construction prices and interest rates are also high. And, quite classically, actions are being taken procyclically by trying to crush the issue with subsidies.
 

i_b_n_a_n

2022-12-14 09:38:11
  • #6

That is a great text you have written there. I almost completely agree with you. I am still (until tomorrow) the owner of an old house (270 years) and for about a year now the owner of a new building (semi-detached house, KfW40+ / passive house). I was once poor, now I am doing quite well (I am not rich!). So I know a wide spectrum from my own real experience. All those who spout pub clichés here, I count myself among them, do nothing except occasionally doing a bit of greenwashing by driving electric, using little energy in the new house, reducing meat (really?) and only flying two instead of three times on vacation. Honest rethinking (warning climate crisis!) and participation (in the sense of liquid democracy) is just too exhausting for all of us! We want to create a better future for our children? Ha, I laugh out loud. Seriously thinking about what that means (lower living standards for all Europeans so that it can rise worldwide on average?)
And let’s be honest, anyone who looks soberly and neutrally at election results cannot believe in a genuine rethinking. Gotta stop here, need to get back to work so we can still hit the million this year :p
 

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