Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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CC35BS38

2023-06-25 08:36:25
  • #1
I wouldn’t have thought so, but I totally agree with you. I reject this frenzy of subsidies and discounts. Here a fuel discount, there an electricity price cap (both could be fully exploited by the corporations), there a few hundred euros energy allowance. What good are 300 euros once, especially when they come way too late. Instead, we need cheap, sustainable energy etc. They should better focus on that instead of keeping people happy with tiny bites. What could have been built for them in wind turbines with the costs of these mini aid packages ... I would also completely cut the (new) housing subsidies. If at all, then promote refurbishment of existing buildings.
 

CC35BS38

2023-06-25 08:40:20
  • #2

I understand what you mean, but I consider this view to be a misconception. With real estate, you are 1000 times wealthier than these people and also significantly better off. You have assets and can do with them as you please. Not selling them is also your own choice. Others do not have these assets, the associated freedoms, or many other freedoms. This only seems "better" at first glance.
 

RotorMotor

2023-06-25 09:12:04
  • #3
Experts currently speak of 30 years. Photovoltaics have proven to be energetically profitable in under 5 years. Calculate for me how much money I can save with that. My estimates for a 3000€ cistern are about 50€/year. Unfortunately, that means it only "pays off" well after the 40-50 years. With cisterns, unfortunately, it is often like with photovoltaic storage. Always full when you don’t need it and always empty when you urgently need it. It becomes more sensible if you use it for the toilet and garden, but then you will never get by with 3000€. Yes, how much energy does it take (in kWh) to produce one m³ of water? I’ll gladly help you with some numbers: If it is "just" pumped from the ground, it’s about one kWh. If it has to be produced by reverse osmosis, then 4-9 kWh. A well-dimensioned photovoltaic system easily produces that on the days when you need water for watering.
 

Benutzer205

2023-06-25 09:17:31
  • #4


Not everyone is equally wealthy.
What if, for example, you bought an apartment early, paid it off over 20 years, and then become unemployed/unable to work, etc., and are supposed to sell the apartment.
Having an apartment does not automatically make you "rich." I also wouldn’t immediately call anyone with a house "rich."
It depends on the location, condition, and your other financial circumstances.

IN THAT CASE, it should be done consistently. That means: there is no more social assistance and everyone is truly responsible for themselves and their lives, so the abolition of basic income, etc., no more rent payments, and you only receive medical treatment if you actually pay contributions yourself.

I find THAT fair (and then, if you want, you could also do it the way you suggested).
 

kati1337

2023-06-25 09:43:25
  • #5
Not being "equally" wealthy doesn’t mean you aren’t wealthy at all. Whether a house is worth 200k or 450k—that’s all measurable, likewise how wealthy someone is can be measured. If you have paid off your apartment over 20 years, you have built up wealth. If you then become unemployed, you are entitled to unemployment benefits (ALG1) for quite a while, during which you don’t have to touch your savings and can look for a new job. Only afterwards do you fall into basic security, and it’s not called that without reason. Then assets are offset. That’s a safety net to survive, funded by society as a whole. Personally, I would be much more annoyed paying people’s bread with my earned contributions who still own a little house or a condominium than people who have fled here with only the clothes on their backs because of war and suffering.

You can quickly look beyond your own borders to the USA to see how such a system works and what it means for the lower income classes. That is truly capitalism in its final stage. Of course, you are free to prefer that; personally, I prefer living in a welfare state.
 

Benutzer205

2023-06-25 10:21:16
  • #6


That’s true! But I believe the time window is very small. I think it’s only 12 months during which your own assets are irrelevant for state support. But there is also the case where someone simply inherits a dump and has to sell it anyway because they can’t even afford 10% inheritance tax (let alone necessary renovations, heat pump, etc. etc).



And what is the solution then?
It annoys me – to put it mildly – that I work and have to spend 40% of my net salary (which is a small four-figure amount) just for the warm rent. Others come here and get their rent paid + citizen’s allowance + medical benefits.
It triggers me so much and my brain just can’t comprehend that the majority of the population is totally fine with this and doesn’t question it.

All houses in my district that are offered for sale at around €300,000 on Immo are in need of renovation because they’re too old (from the ’60s, ’70s). So you can safely add another €100,000, usually even more. And then there are the costs for a heat pump (probably another €100,000 additional).

How can anyone believe that all this makes sense?
 

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