Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

2022-12-08 22:33:36

Dirt! We occasionally have discussions about this topic (social justice, opportunities for advancement, educational opportunities, etc.) over breakfast. And by the way, by definition, we (my parents/family) were definitely poor in the past. Three children, each of whom turned out somehow (more or less ;-), my brother, for example, rose from the lowest class through diligence and discipline. First Dipl. (Civil) Engineer, then Dr., and for many years now a professor. I chose a different path, but I'm doing quite well, as is my sister... Everyone who complains about money later usually (there are only a few exceptions) had it in their own hands at many points to set the course correctly. Everyone sets priorities differently, but complaining later is really a specialty in DE. And really, "We in DE live on an island of bliss," more broadly even in Europe, is one of my most loved and often said sentences. I don't want to deny that there could be more social justice, which from my point of view would even be highly desirable. But we here are so sated and dumbed down! 90% vote for parties that take money away from them (the voters). Going out on the streets and demonstrating for real change? Probably not. P.S. Except for the last election, I was many times a voter of the Left!

Sorry, but that is dirt (to keep with your words). Yes, opportunities exist. But by far not everyone has the intellectual abilities to study or learn a profession that will allow them to afford a house. No matter how diligent someone is, no matter how much they learn, they will not get a good degree and learn a profession that brings them a lot of money. And if your parents say, you don’t have to go to a grammar school, a saleswoman apprenticeship is enough, then maybe you can continue learning later at evening school, but maybe you also have to earn money (due to various life circumstances) and cannot do so. It is indeed luck if you receive the conditions to learn a well-paid profession. And surely it is easier than in many other countries. But to say everyone can do that misrepresents reality.

2022-12-08 22:38:39

Yes, everyone has different starting conditions, BUT if I don't understand something as quickly in school as little Fritz next to me, I just have to sit down at home and study in order to still get good grades. If I have problems understanding long texts, then I read long texts in my free time as practice. If I'm bad at math, then I practice math at home until I know the formulas. Whoever doesn't do any of this and then sits in school and complains that everything isn't spoon-fed to them there but that you have to learn on your own initiative is to blame themselves. And if little Fritz understands long texts better but I am better at math, then we both have to do something to improve our education in those areas. Of course there are also high achievers, but most have to learn and be diligent to get a good degree.

2022-12-08 22:41:30

I can understand anyone who, in this economically difficult situation, feels a bit sorry for themselves because now a vacation has to be sacrificed due to the gas price doubling, even though one couldn't have foreseen this a few years ago

So you can "understand" people with a possibly undesired travel desire who have their own home and family, but you have "no sympathy" for people who want to improve their housing situation but can't. Nice! I hate being bi-polar, it‘s awesome.

2022-12-08 22:49:04

You can understand people with a possibly unwanted travel wish who have their own home and family, but you have "no sympathy" for people who want to improve their housing situation but cannot. I hate being bi-polar, it‘s awesome.

So you have sympathy for all people? Everyone who cannot afford a house because of the interest rates. Everyone who did not have parental support for a good degree. Everyone who did not find a good job. Everyone who does not have our Western standard of living. This list can be extended indefinitely. That honors you greatly and is a good character trait. And yes, I admit, I too can understand all these arguments. This crisis is burdensome for everyone in different ways. But one thing is true. Everyone can achieve the best out of their possibilities here through hard work. That was true before the crisis and still is now. The keyword is: diligence.

2022-12-08 22:50:27

Sorry, but this is crap (to stay with your words). Yes, there are possibilities. But by far not everyone has the intellectual capabilities to study or learn a profession with which they can afford a house. No matter how hardworking someone is, no matter how much they learn, they will not get a good degree and learn a profession that brings them a lot of money.

I never said that the outcome would be that you can afford a house. An example of how it can work: About 30 years ago I completed my advanced technical college entrance qualification (Fachabi), in my class a girl who had to move out of her home because her father basically said: a woman doesn't need to learn/study, she will stand by the stove anyway later). SHE grabbed the opportunity with Fachabi and studying civil engineering, that was certainly difficult. She could have taken a different path here as well. (For me: elementary school->grammar school->secondary modern school->apprenticeship->job->Fachabi->studies->self-employment) Apprenticeship and work by the way at an authority! I quit there on my own initiative to continue (see above).

And if your parents say you don’t need to go to grammar school, a saleswoman apprenticeship is enough, then maybe you can continue learning later at evening school, but maybe you also have to earn money (due to various life circumstances) and cannot do that. It is actually luck if you get the prerequisites to learn a well-paid profession. And sure, it is easier than in some other countries. But to say everyone can do that ignores reality.

See above, everything can always be explained, there is always a reason why someone couldn’t do something. THAT is what I mean by "weak". I also know the harsh reality from my own experience! Ultimately many of my decisions are more than questionable from a financial point of view. But I don’t complain ;-) because clearly: all my own voluntarily chosen path! During my studies I still thought: oh, why doesn’t anyone tell me what I’m supposed to do. Meanwhile I’m glad that no one tells me anymore.

2022-12-08 23:00:14

So you have pity for everyone?

Huh no, it doesn’t say that? :D My quoted post was about you and the fact that you "understand" forum members who maybe can’t make long flights, but at the same time have "no pity" for people in clearly worse living conditions because in your opinion they were unlucky or not hardworking enough.
Unfortunately, I have the impression that you hardly read other comments and instead occupy yourself with long monologues about hard work and luck.

Therefore, I say goodbye with the following statement: The paving work in the yard has begun. The current offer has only become marginally more expensive than the initial offer from June. Mashallah, you just have to be lucky in life.

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