Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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In der Ruine

2022-11-03 13:21:05
  • #1

What is wrong with you? If old tires are burned in your neighborhood, I am sorry for you.
Our chimney neither smells nor produces smoke. Of course, it requires a clean combustion at high temperature.
You also cannot compare an old diesel from 1970 with a modern turbo diesel of today.
 

dertill

2022-11-03 15:56:35
  • #2


The price cap for electricity and gas is only temporary and at the turn of the year or by 2024 at the latest, the electricity exchange prices will also be passed on to all end customers, you will receive a letter about that too.
In the long term, it ultimately remains a "bet" whether the ratio of electricity price / gas price is greater or smaller than the annual performance factor of the heat pump, at least in terms of operating costs. Without the purely politically induced price increase in natural gas, the calculation would be positive for gas heating depending on connection conditions or at most comparable. What the future will bring? We'll see.

Regarding the electricity price, do not forget that there are now and in 2023 even more dramatic differences between north and south. While in northern Germany (SH, NS and MVP) massive investments were made in grids and connections for wind turbines, little has been done towards the south. The connection costs are now borne by the grid users in the north. Also, the surcharges due to lost profits of wind turbine operators because electricity cannot be delivered to the south are borne by the grid users in the north. And because of the increased electricity exchange price, these are enormous in 2023. This quickly adds up to a 7 ct / kWh price difference in grid charges between, for example, BW and SH.
 

guckuck2

2022-11-03 16:28:21
  • #3
The electricity price is only artificially high (was) due to excessive electricity production using gas (raw material expensive) and unfavorable effects in the electricity market (Merit Order principle, demand situation in France). Both are temporary problems. btw. check the prices of the electricity exchange. There is a reason why the media have not reported any records for months (!);-)

Gas will never be this cheap again because Russia will be out of the picture in the long term. The alternative is LNG, which costs many times more. There are good reasons why LNG has not been purchased so far; the Russians were simply massively cheaper. How much more expensive exactly it will become, we will still see, but don't expect to ever see gas under 10 cents per kWh again, rather more.

CO2 pricing does the rest. Even without the exceptional situation, gas prices would have tripled by 2030.
 

se_na_23

2022-11-03 17:17:06
  • #4


Someone already tried to take this route here - but the wind was quickly taken out of their sails ;)

Photovoltaics in MW:

SH: 2087 NS: 5111 MVP: 3081

Total: 10279

Bavaria: 16206

Countries that have wind can gladly spoil the landscape - countries that have sun can use it effectively instead of wind turbines that don’t turn for 20 hours a day
 

WilderSueden

2022-11-03 17:31:14
  • #5
Gas was already politically dead two years ago. The signs point to electrification because improvements to the grid automatically affect all consumers (car, heating). If our politics were a little less ideological, plans would now be made to operate some fossil power plants only in the winter months in the future to meet electricity demand until a good storage solution is found. But we prefer to talk about when we will completely phase out coal...

Regarding wind, I also offer the following statistics from Windfinder for consideration. Building wind turbines is one thing, but they are useless when there's no wind.




 

SoL

2022-11-03 17:58:59
  • #6
Effectively using it only works to a limited extent, photovoltaics also do not generate electricity 24/7.

Regarding the numbers above: correct. Now let's look at wind power (only onshore): Lower Saxony: 11,430 MW Bavaria: 2,567 MW

So you can use any statistics you want, it just depends on which numbers you look at ;)

From my point of view, a mix of everything is best. If I have a sunny spot, there should be photovoltaics. If I constantly have a strong breeze, then probably wind is better.
 

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