Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-23 10:46:58

TmMike_2

2022-11-02 17:36:33
  • #1
I'll throw 'flow 30' into the ring.
Anyone who seriously wants to deal with the topic of energy-efficient heating should consider this principle BEFORE building a house.

    [*]Maximum 30 degrees supply temperature in all heating circuits
    [*]Maximum 30 mbar pressure loss in the worst heating circuit
    [*]Maximum 30% length difference between the shortest and longest heating circuit
    [*]Maximum 30% of the heating circuits with individual room controllers
    [*]Minimum 30 mm pipe diameter for connecting the heating circuit distributors

regarding construction costs.
Since the 'Ship Shorting crisis' during corona, insulation materials now cost roughly 2-3 times as much. Really crazy.
A roll of clamping felt 032 now sometimes costs 70€, it was available for under 30€ two years ago.
 

WilderSueden

2022-11-02 17:48:40
  • #2
I quickly pulled the value from the internet. Of course, it also depends heavily on usage; the value corresponds to about 40 liters of domestic hot water per person per day if I remember correctly. At that amount, the bathtub is no longer usable for bathing. And pipe lengths are naturally another factor. We have both bathrooms stacked on top of each other and the ground floor bathroom right next to the technical room. Only the kitchen has a longer pipe run.
 

se_na_23

2022-11-02 18:43:38
  • #3
I will email him again regarding this and also have him send me the hydraulic plan and installation plan of the underfloor heating... He said he is using 16x2 with a 10cm installation spacing...
 

teh_M

2022-11-02 19:27:42
  • #4
Something doesn't add up, 18000kWh is way too much. We also have local heating from a biogas plant, last year 5800kWh heat energy. This year we currently have 3500kWh, probably then < 5000kWh total. All including hot water. 6.1 cents per kWh with €0 basic fee. 145sqm Kfw40+.
 

xMisterDx

2022-11-02 19:43:34
  • #5


Nope. An annual performance factor of 4 is not realistic for an air-to-air heat pump. 3 is already good if you consider a normal winter, not the winters we've had in recent years.

And if I look at the price cap. Gas 12 cents, electricity 40 cents, so a factor of 3.333... the air-to-air heat pump offers you absolutely no advantage compared to a gas heating system. Except currently 12-15,000 EUR higher acquisition costs financed at 4%. Great! ;)
 

guckuck2

2022-11-02 19:55:04
  • #6


Air-to-water heat pump. Nice try.

Price caps are not a permanent installation and here heat pump electricity costs 16-20 cents (off-peak/peak) and thus is nowhere near a limit. Household electricity 30 cents.

But precisely because of this limited mindset it is good that gas is done in new buildings. In recent years I have experienced dozens of discussions here where similarly shortsighted people with swollen chests planned the great gas heating in new buildings. Now they are all a burden on us. Perfect.
 

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