Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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MDZ Hausbau

2022-07-27 12:47:51
  • #1
So I don't want the Senec junk in the basement or anywhere else. Forced shutdowns of the systems for weeks and very expensive to purchase. Of course, the Senec cloud only works with Senec devices.

Three exploded houses are surely enough to seriously ruin the reputation for now.

Otherwise, there is no power cloud that makes sense even for the small photovoltaic owner. Large systems go into direct marketing anyway, so it looks different there.

A factor of 2 would be fair for both sides. I feed 2 kWh into the power cloud and get 1 kWh back in winter.

Unfortunately, you hear nothing about pumped storage power plants or compressed air storage for small consumers. All just hot air.
And without the Chinese, we wouldn't even have battery storage up and running.
 

KingJulien

2022-07-27 12:58:59
  • #2
That was good ;) Now you have somehow made me curious. What volumes and pressures for what amount of electricity are we talking about for private households?
 

Tolentino

2022-07-27 13:01:00
  • #3

That is not true, your subscription fee is your basic fee

Gladly, but as I said, not compared to just a normal electricity tariff, but compared to a normal electricity tariff for grid consumption + self-consumption - storage consumption + feed-in tariff for feed-in (which you have now assigned) + savings in storage costs.
Only then will you know if it was worth it.


Personally, I find pumped storage very promising. You can basically build them anywhere, they require much less space than pumped storage, much less demanding technology than electrolysis, compressed air, or magnetically suspended kinetic storage. However, I also do not understand why this is not being promoted much more.
In Switzerland, there is an interesting provider pursuing a winch pumped storage concept.
 

KingJulien

2022-07-27 13:05:08
  • #4

Most engineers probably find it too archaic.
Lifting large stone blocks is so much 3000 BC.
 

Tolentino

2022-07-27 13:06:11
  • #5
Hehe Stonehenge is actually a hub storage. The corresponding winches are just missing.

As far as I'm concerned, the blocks should be stored magnetically to reduce friction loss. It would really be interesting if someone with physical expertise could explain this well – I mean why it hasn't been implemented on a large scale for a long time. Especially in the East, on the old combine sites, something like that could be well realized, in my opinion.
 

guckuck2

2022-07-27 13:18:54
  • #6


If you forget the crazy acquisition costs, you can probably hold such an opinion.

Ultimately, a power cloud is a package electricity tariff that is pre-financed by exorbitant acquisition costs for a storage system. In addition, there is partial refinancing through the feed-in tariff that Senec receives. In my opinion, a complete scam package that carries a massive insolvency risk. Senec also has to buy the “cloud power” for the winter from the market... this could get interesting. It wouldn’t be the first “cloud” to go bankrupt. Then the prepayment is lost, leaving at least a storage system under criticism in the possession of the private customer.
 

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