Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

Does the building materials dealer still get a discount here? I have an offer from the building materials dealer (from May 22) for 140.38 per cbm... The Xella price list says from 1.1.23 455.9 per cbm

A month ago it was 150€/m3 at the building materials dealer, I inquired because of a garden shed. Of course there are discounts on list prices, just like the 80% discount on LP for KG pipes.... But I will now build the garden shed from timber frame KVH with ETICS. Was that standard concrete? It was still under 100/cbm for us, from 1.1. 135 net for c25/30

Hi,

Good grief, that’s 5-6 times the heating energy demand of our house! And we have 180 sqm plus basement fully heated... Maybe the plans to make energy refurbishment of old buildings mandatory aren’t such a bad idea after all...

Best regards,

Andreas

Maybe that’s why some people finally understand this:
The effort for another 20% net energy saving in new buildings is huge – and yet it hardly makes a difference whether you need 6 MWh or 5 MWh.

That’s why existing buildings should also be supported.
Whether 60 MWh or 30 MWh per year – it’s quickly a factor 10-20 anyway.

Do you mean economically? Insulation is absolutely sensible ecologically, it saves the multiple of the oil used. I have something like 10-20 times in mind, but don't hold me to the exact number.

The energy payback time depends on the material and is probably somewhere between 0.5 and 3 years, depending on the material and application. I have just insulated the facade of our house myself and my name is not Konrad Fischer either.

A renovation obligation would not exactly increase the willingness to renovate buildings in many cases, but on the contrary give momentum to the skeptics and punish those who have no reserves for this or do not have the income.
Because despite energy payback, the monetary payback time in years is usually double-digit, if it can be realistically achieved at all.

What are the current construction costs in the area of ETICS installation (in existing buildings)? I still have €150/m² gross in mind – 2020.

Ultimately, the monetary perspective is irrelevant. The population has voted for parties that (with one exception) have promised certain CO2 reduction targets. In this respect, one can assume a general consensus on CO2 reduction. However, this is neither free nor available at cost price. If all the ambitious goals like net-zero in 20-30 years are even to be approximately achieved, then a strict renovation obligation must be introduced for existing buildings. Regardless of whether it is financially worthwhile or not. The issue has been known for at least a decade, and accordingly, my understanding is limited when buyers of old houses now call out to the state instead of factoring renovation costs into their purchase from the outset. I have more understanding for people who have owned the house for 40 years. But something must happen here, too. We have a stock of about 40 million housing units. If half of these are unrenovated old buildings and we want to be done with this in the 2040s, at least one million units must be renovated per year. That is a lot of work.

Ambitious goal...and who is supposed to do the work? Skilled labor shortage has been known for years and is not just a temporary phenomenon. I actually don't see any party that has a coherent overall concept ready. I find that really disappointing!

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What are the current construction costs in the area of ETICS installation (on existing buildings)? I still have €150 /m² gross in mind - 2020.

- 20cm EPS 032 - €160/m² gross
- 22cm mineral wool 035 - €180/m² gross

Complete/without own contribution. So including scaffolding, gluing and doweling, 2x plaster and 2x paint. Rural Bavaria.