Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

2021-12-19 13:13:40

Since we are currently at the beginning of our construction, I found this topic really interesting. But unfortunately, in the last approximately 150 pages, only about 10-15 pages dealt with practical experiences and articles about [Baupreiseno_O].

2021-12-19 13:16:22

And this is now the important point: how exactly would you feel if your opinion no longer wants to be heard in public discourse because it is too tedious to deal with?

But that is very ambivalent. In language regulations, discussions about values, etc., including everyone and everything may make sense. The problem is that, for example, in the topic of climate, this culture of discourse is supposed to be extended to scientific methodology - and that simply does not work. If people who say there is no greenhouse effect, or CO2 has no effect, or all data is faked, or solar cycles are forgotten by everyone, or the Earth is flat, or whatever else were not systematically excluded, every advancement in knowledge would come to a halt. Those who decide to take a position against which there is real evidence or that contradicts logic and are also not willing to learn are then actually out. You cannot include them, take them seriously, or pay attention to them. How else? An opinion can be wrong, even though you are allowed to have it. This tension between the scientific method of knowledge and the culture of debate, as we are used to it in social issues, strongly strains society. But the solution cannot be to apply a new methodology to natural sciences - those who do not keep up mentally simply do not keep up. Only education and good communication can alleviate this.

2021-12-19 13:26:01

... Used electric cars have two huge disadvantages. Very expensive new batteries are needed. ...

I consider that a myth, just like the idea that photovoltaic systems dissolve into thin air after 25 years. The batteries of used electric vehicles are not "defective" but at most (statistically speaking) have only less capacity, for example 70-80%, which is usually still sufficient. Battery warranties of 7, 8 or more years at least suggest this.

2021-12-19 13:27:11

But that is very double-edged. When it comes to language regulations, discussions about values, etc., including everyone and everything may make sense.

The problem is that, for example, in the topic of climate, this discourse culture is supposed to be extended to scientific methodology – and that simply doesn't work.
If people who say there is no greenhouse effect, or that CO2 has no effect, or that all data are faked, or that solar cycles are forgotten by everyone, or that the Earth is flat, or whatever, were not systematically excluded, any progress in knowledge would come to a halt.
Anyone who decides to take a position against real evidence or that violates logic and is also not willing to learn more is then actually outside. You cannot include them, take them seriously, or pay attention to them. How should you? An opinion can be wrong, even though you are allowed to have it.

This tension between the scientific approach to knowledge and the debate culture, as we know it from societal issues, is pulling society apart strongly. But the solution definitely cannot be to replace science with a new methodology – those who don’t keep up in their thinking just don’t keep up. Only education and good communication can mitigate this.

I want to set aside the really extreme opinions. There, I agree with you. Fanatics can and should remain on the sidelines.
I am much more concerned with the many millions of people from trades and similar jobs. Those who have to work daily for shelter, food, and health. There is very little time and energy to realize that measures (whichever) for climate protection, for example, are necessary. And it is the very task of politics to reach out to these people and include them. To perceive and take seriously these people's fears. And to take appropriate measures so that a small family does not suddenly have to pay €200 heating costs per month for an 80 sqm apartment.
What can be seen here on the last few pages is visible everywhere in society and politics. And that is simply wrong. If we label people as uneducated and exclude them from the public discourse, everyone loses.
By the way, these are exactly the people who represent the backbone of society.

2021-12-19 13:29:57

Why are fewer being produced instead of more? Because for years there has been a ban on new registrations of combustion engines being discussed, and it certainly won't be long before it comes into effect.

ah, can you please lend me your crystal ball? I still need the lottery numbers for the upcoming weekend. (not a direct ban, but the framework conditions required by climate protection are being adjusted > fleet consumption is reduced. Currently achieved through "fake information" about the consumption of hybrid vehicles).

2021-12-19 13:30:03

I consider that a myth, just like the one that photovoltaic systems dissolve into thin air after 25 years. The batteries of used electric vehicles are not "defective" but at most (statistically speaking) have only reduced capacity of, for example, 70-80%, which is usually still sufficient. Battery warranties of 7, 8 or more years at least suggest that.

Not a myth. Take a look at the current ranges of affordable electric cars. 70-80% of that with longer charging cycles etc. is simply terrible and unsustainable. Yes, research is being done, which I think is great. But it doesn't solve the current problem. By the way, you can also do research without condemning all other technologies and driving them off the market through artificial price increases.

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