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Scout

2021-10-28 16:46:09
  • #1

Well, H2 can basically be stored... electricity cannot. So should one then heat in the summer because the electricity is just so cheap? What do you do with electricity that is not in demand? And what about dark doldrums? Heat with electricity from gas or what?
 

Deliverer

2021-10-28 16:46:51
  • #2

You realize that yourself, right, or do I have to? ;-)
 

Deliverer

2021-10-28 16:56:29
  • #3
Oh, we need H2. In incredibly large quantities. Just not for heating or cars. An entire chemical and steel industry must be converted. And that can largely only be done with H2. Dark doldrums were invented by the coal industry - with a correspondingly large grid, they do not exist. Even if we cut all cables to neighboring countries, we only need to bridge a maximum of two weeks in the country. That can be stored (heat, water, H2, methane, battery).
 

Scout

2021-10-28 17:10:32
  • #4

Two weeks are about 20 TWh of electricity. That is what is stored in the batteries of 300 million charged Teslas.. Without providing this power at every moment on time, there will be massive blackouts, leading to hundreds or even thousands of deaths.

The only realistic option is practically to entirely supplement the grid with gas power plants as backup.

See the study "Klimapfade 2.0" (google!)
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- 100 billion €/year are to be invested
- Another 140 GW photovoltaic, 98 GW wind (onshore),
- By 2045, almost 40 million electric cars are expected to be on the road
- New gas power plants with 43+ GW by 2030, which should later be able to run on hydrogen

Or, as I see it, import nuclear power from neighboring countries; Poland and France are already planning.
 

Joedreck

2021-10-28 17:55:11
  • #5
To produce H2, strategic and economic cooperations with desert countries could be established. Here, H2 could be produced relatively cheaply through photovoltaics.
 

konibar

2021-10-28 18:32:06
  • #6
a not entirely new idea: it was already pondered more than 25 years ago with the advent of photovoltaics, to do this on the northern edge of the otherwise "useless" Sahara. As far as I know, nothing ever came of it because the area was considered too politically/strategically insecure.
 

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