guckuck2
2023-03-02 11:09:48
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Exactly, and as far as I understand so far, the conversion period for everyone whose heating system is now at least 30 years old is only 2 or 3 years? Considering delivery times and availability of craftsmen, does that basically mean starting immediately?!
That would have to be read in detail again.
Although I think such old boilers were already counted out anyway and possibly only allowed because of grandfathering. There were already regulations in case of defects and change of ownership.
Although there are already differences here. For night storage heaters, you need a thick power cable per heater. That can be retrofitted quite easily. For radiators, you need pipes, which are still feasible. From coal stove to gas heating, everything remains in the high-temperature range. But for heat pumps, you have to go to the low-temperature range, and floor heating is then required. Floor heating is extremely complex since the entire screed has to be removed, plus doors and sockets no longer fit. I now see more ceiling heating there. But for low temperature to get warm, the building envelope must be accordingly upgraded. And that then leads to a chain reaction. On the other hand, you don't want to operate a heat pump with an annual performance factor = 2.
In the era of night storage heaters, houses still had wiring ducts under the plaster or wallpaper. Neither was the cable thick enough to the installation location, nor was the distribution or house connection designed for it.
For the conversion to gas, you needed civil engineering work in the street, civil engineering work to the property and into the house. Then piping for radiators inside the house. This led to ugly surface-mounted installations or interventions in the floor structure.
For a heat pump, you do not necessarily need floor heating. On the one hand, there are low-temperature radiators (yes, these would have to be replaced and yes, they need significantly more space in the room), on the other hand, heat pumps can also be operated in high temperature - at the expense of efficiency. In recent years, a lot has happened again regarding efficiency with heat pumps in general and also in the HT area. By the way, a heat pump with an annual performance factor of 2 (which is very pessimistic) is consumption-competitive with gas, which thanks to LNG will never be as cheap as it used to be, but that is another story. Basically, you are right, insulation comes before system technology. Those who consume little also pay little (and emit little). In my opinion, there should be a regulation that considers insulation measures as a replacement for boiler replacement, e.g., 10 years longer grace period.
Heat pumps can also hang on the ceiling in the form of split air conditioners, which takes 2-3 days' work for a house.
Apart from that, hybrid heating systems also work, i.e., on paper you can fudge the renewable share as you have done for the last 10 years with gas and the two token solar thermal collectors. Similarly, a pellet heating system is possible without touching the radiators or the here suggested "core renovation obligation."
I think you can clearly see from this discussion that Habeck’s confusion will never be approved as he planned. Old buildings must be renovated, certainly! Possibly also with the goal of installing a heat pump (that’s how we do it), but that takes time, money, and must be done with sense and understanding. To me, all of this seems extremely unplanned again, what our green philosopher is putting together there. Let’s see what the traffic light coalition ends up doing with it…
In detail, a post-mortem critique is certainly appropriate. Over such a long period involved here, multiple adjustments will be important as well. Just as in the past.