Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-23 10:46:58

xMisterDx

2022-10-18 21:51:21
  • #1
You have to specify the region for it. Between the MD or HAL region and M or S, there is often a 20-25% difference at Town & Country. I saw the 152 RE for 183,000 EUR in mid-2019, and at the end of 2019, the base price was 189,000.
 

fromthisplace

2022-10-18 21:53:12
  • #2


We are working with a general contractor. Everything is going great. Our contract specifies the Stiebel Eltron LWZ 5 S or the LWZ 8 CS Premium. During the plumbing inspection in the shell construction phase, I asked the boss. He told me that the heating system would "definitely not be oversized" and it would "probably be the 5 S." Since they also do the heating for a large prefab house provider, they have enough units of both in stock.
No additional costs will arise.
 

xMisterDx

2022-10-18 22:03:43
  • #3


This is even more true for the gas price... I am curious how the ovens in cement, brick, or glass production are supposed to be heated if not with gas.
Also process heat... VW, for example, burns gas to generate electricity and uses the waste heat as process heat. If that is no longer possible, VW will have to generate its process heat with electricity. Where is that supposed to come from in such quantities?

PS:
And how will the baker heat his oven in the future? With a heat pump?
Come on, forget it :D
 

Baranej

2022-10-18 22:20:19
  • #4


OWL, but I was only concerned with the development, which should probably be roughly the same percentage-wise in most regions. It does seem to be partly due to higher equipment, but the majority is probably general development after all.
 

xMisterDx

2022-10-19 09:34:57
  • #5
For the heat pump, Town & Country already wanted around 12,000 EUR surcharge in 2019, it is probably 15-20,000 EUR by now. The installer alone would have charged me a 15,000 EUR surcharge if I had switched from gas to heat pump now, without going through the general contractor. But I might get it by Christmas 2024 with some luck.

I am quite alone in this forum with this opinion, but I would still opt for a gas heating system now. Simple technology, energy carrier storable on a large scale, and the distribution network to millions of end customers is available, neither has to be newly built nor upgraded. Just imagine equipping all houses with heat pumps now. I lack the imagination of how the house connections of multi-family houses with 6, 8 or even more units could handle that.

By the way, electricity now costs 48 cents/kWh here (municipal utility price). And I like to say it again and again. The common photovoltaic systems with 5 or 6 kWp, which fit the roofs of "normal" single-family houses, do not even come close to covering the electricity demand of the heat pump in winter. Lots of electricity has to be bought, and in summer the (largely surplus) electricity is fed in at the cheapest rate. Which city villa already has significantly more than 100 m² of roof area, of which, with all the slopes and vents, more than 60 or 70 m² in east, west and south directions are available for photovoltaics?
 

kati1337

2022-10-19 10:32:35
  • #6
Of which we do not have much at home and make ourselves dependent on states whose values do not match our own at all when buying in. Which is also finite and bad for the CO2 targets. Only occasionally patched up when someone has blown holes in it again? They don't have to. But they already contribute quite a bit. More than we expected. For quite some time, we had a lousy 4.55 kWp on the roof and an air-water heat pump. Of course, it does not deliver peak amounts in winter, but it does supply some, which should not be underestimated. What many like to forget is that there is still a heating period in spring and autumn, and that was 4-6 months a year during which we achieved excellent synergy effects. If you can’t use it otherwise. We have luxury home office, so we consumed a lot of photovoltaic electricity ourselves, even in summer. Even those who don't have that do not have a categorically unprofitable system. You can program devices to run over the midday period when you are not at home. With an e-car / possibly a home battery you can get even more out of it. You can heat the domestic hot water higher when there is surplus. There are already intelligent approaches. And even if you feed in – every little bit helps. You have immense influence on the self-consumption rate. Ours was almost twice as high in 2 years as we had calculated (pessimistic-conservative).
 

Similar topics
27.03.2016Air-water heat pump, gas, solar thermal prefab house, advantages and disadvantages?18
22.05.2017New build bungalow - air-water heat pump, photovoltaic and solar thermal?17
29.05.2019Gas or heat pump? Experiences / Feedback115
08.10.2019New heating system with hot water preparation?!20
13.12.2019Gas with solar thermal or heat pump? And possibly photovoltaics?13
05.11.2019Which heat pump to use in monolithic construction?33
05.01.2020Gas vs. Air-Water Heat Pump34
05.12.2020Gas with solar thermal? Or heat pump with photovoltaics? Consultation149
15.05.2021Town & Country Raumwunder 100 with few changes20
25.03.2022Switching from gas to solar / photovoltaic with / without heat pump31
12.02.2023Hybrid heating: Is a heat pump with a gas condensing boiler sensible in old buildings?26
05.05.2022Gas without solar possible for new construction?34
19.10.2024Air-to-air heat pump air conditioning? Comfort character?17

Oben