Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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xMisterDx

2022-12-28 23:34:51
  • #1
Huh? That can be easily calculated... you just have to understand what the inflation is related to.

I also don't know where 4% falling producer prices would significantly curb inflation. Producer prices have climbed by 20, 30, 40% over the year.

And it continues merrily.
In mid-2023, wage increases of almost 5% will come from almost all unions. Energy remains expensive, gas remains scarce.
Many effects will only take effect in 2023... just because many small businesses had energy contracts that expire at the beginning of 2023. Then the price usually multiplies, etc.

You once threw something out there, yes. But that's just nonsense.
 

guckuck2

2022-12-29 10:08:04
  • #2

Nov 21 - Nov 22 it was 28.2% according to the Federal Statistical Office, not 30% or 40%. It will also not be more 30% or 40%, but less than 28.2% if chand’s statement is correct. Why is it so important for you to portray the situation worse than it actually is?



The trend is currently positive. Which does not mean that the peak of inflation must be overcome, but the upward momentum has been broken for months.



The existing collective agreements refute your statements about 5% next summer. Energy remains expensive, yes, but currently (!) with a tendency to become cheaper. Gas was and has been at no time in 2022 scarce. The expectation that a shortage could occur caused the prices. It is people like you who preach doom and move the mood in that very direction.



You forget the gas price cap in your theory. Moreover, the gas price on the spot market (yes, I know) was below the pre-war level yesterday. Completely without Russia, thanks to full storage, low gas consumption, lots of wind energy, LNG deliveries, etc.
 

Benutzer 1001

2022-12-29 10:52:56
  • #3
We only know extremes anymore, every topic is being pushed.. every shortage is being driven to the extreme.

Toilet paper..
Flour..
Ibuprofen.
Inverters for photovoltaics.
Travel.
House construction..

This comes from our constant excess of always wanting to have everything at any time.
 

xMisterDx

2022-12-29 12:57:51
  • #4
The shortage of ibu fever syrup is quite extreme. We just needed some (and luckily still had some). It really shakes you up when your child suddenly has a 40.5 fever and you have no fever syrup, at 10:30 PM.

Friends of ours took their little one to the emergency room and after waiting for 2 hours were sent to a clinic 35 km away because no beds were available. With a 2-year-old who has a 40-degree fever...

I wouldn't wish that on anyone...
 

chand1986

2022-12-29 14:06:47
  • #5

Please read what I write.

4% is the monthly dynamic, so decrease relative to the direct previous month. Converted to an annual rate, that would be over 25% decrease. But it makes no sense to state it as an annual rate because you don’t even know beforehand whether it’s a one-off effect or not… oops!

That’s why inflation figures are rarely well understood. You know what something costs in % more this December than in December of the previous year. In years with high dynamics within the year, such annual rates show quite hard-to-interpret data—but they are the standard in public reporting. I criticize that.

Regarding the wage agreements: They are higher than before. But high? Please! You have to add the targeted inflation (2%) to the productivity increase and you get what nominal wage increases would have to come nationwide per year. Do we have that?
 

xMisterDx

2022-12-29 14:14:12
  • #6
Yes. But it is now just 2 months in a row and not 12. In that respect, your rate of change is just a pipe dream. Regarding the wage agreements: These are at the limit of what can still be afforded given competition from China. It is quite astonishing what they can already do there themselves. Ten years ago, no one would have thought that possible. Corona and the necessity to do it yourself because no skilled workers from Europe can enter anymore were an enormous accelerator. You are indulging in the illusion that it won’t be that bad and everything will be back to the 2019 price level next year. One can believe that, no question. But I consider it better to accept that wealth has been lost that we will not get back. That hits me as a father of 2 children, by the way, despite having a good job. Many things will no longer be possible.
 

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