Construction costs are currently skyrocketing

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Tolentino

2022-12-22 09:57:18
  • #1
Psychologically, that may be the case, I don't know, I am not aware of any statistics on that. But as I said, just because a hereditary leasehold contract expires, it does not mean that everything must be returned immediately. The house must be compensated, which is why the lessor often does not want that at all. And then a hereditary leasehold contract remains a contract. That means other reversion conditions can also be agreed upon. The 2/3 are the statutory minimum amount.
 

mayglow

2022-12-22 10:37:20
  • #2
In principle, I can also imagine a "new" leasehold agreement that then runs for 80-90 years in theory. But I have to say, when we were searching and sometimes also saw a house where the contract still ran for about 25 years or less, that was more of a "hmm, no, I think rather not" for us. So, we didn't even inquire anymore about what usually happens at the end of a leasehold contract or what the specific regulations are (so yes, we absolutely exited there with prejudices, I plead guilty). But we are probably not the only ones there.

There have already been a few reports in the press here where, after the contract expired, the costs for the lease were significantly increased (which partly was because they were ridiculously low in the case of a 90-year-old contract—but if it is then increased tenfold, you might still not be fully prepared for that, even if you have a buffer in your household budget) and also some cases where the lease was specifically not renewed or should not be renewed because the grantor wanted to use the areas differently. I mean, to a certain extent, that is also simply the point. From a societal perspective, that certainly does not have to be wrong... I mean, the cities here were sometimes considering increasing the use of leasehold precisely to possibly allow discussions about repurposing again in many years if that then proves to be sensible, and also so that not all inner-city areas pass into private hands (and possibly have to be bought back expensively later). But for the individual who then has the house on the land at the expiry or near the expiry of the leasehold, it is of course a factor of uncertainty. What compensation payments will have to be made in the end, I actually did not know exactly. I have now taken that away as an insight for myself (and it certainly eases the problem for me).

Regarding the "investment backlog," I can also imagine that. My parents always put a lot into their house, but for 1-2 years now there has been discussion about whether a railway line should be laid there. Right now, a different route is under discussion again, but they still have it in the back of their minds. You then really think a third time about whether to put photovoltaic panels on the roof, even if realistically it will still take years until the issue of "railway buys up land" becomes serious. Measures around the house often only pay off economically after decades (ecologically, however, often much earlier), and I suspect that they will eventually simply no longer be carried out? This is similar to the person who a few pages ago said that in 10 years of renting out a house, they did less in the garden than in one year in their own house garden, even though they previously could have done it. So ultimately, it is of course individual, but I could also imagine that with a leasehold plot, some people will have certain mental blocks in the back of their minds. Especially if we no longer talk about a 90-year term, but about half or a quarter of that...
 

mayglow

2022-12-22 10:55:06
  • #3
That would roughly be my question: Could you imagine buying a house without massive discounts with 15 years of remaining contract term? 10 years? 5 years? 1 year? I mean, maybe then it’s no longer during your lifetime and therefore "doesn’t matter". But when we were looking for a house ourselves, we definitely found such cases and asked ourselves that question, and our personal answer was "no". (It’s nice if I get paid 2/3 of the value if the ground lease isn’t extended... but if I’ve only had the house for 5 years, then I might still have more outstanding debt than I would get there?)
 

KarstenausNRW

2022-12-22 10:58:02
  • #4
It can be done - but no bank will finance it. The leasehold contract would have to be extended in advance.
 

Kati2022

2022-12-22 14:44:31
  • #5
A few more words about price increases...

Xella is raising prices by about 20% as of 1.1.22.
Brickworks as well. Here are a few excerpts from the price catalogs (officially published on the homepage): 2022 and 2023. Prices have increased by up to 80% - especially perforated bricks for interior construction...:eek:
I have marked the bricks we used in red. Of course, not all interior walls were built with 11 cm bricks. For load-bearing walls, we used the 24 cm TS 1.2, for the garage the 17 cm TS 1.2.
I am curious what the shell construction would cost us in 2023?



 

Stephan—

2022-12-22 14:45:18
  • #6
A little back to the topic: We finally received our 80m boreholes this week, will casing and connect them probably only next year. For those interested. Such a geothermal heating system (Novelan, when it only runs on the heating rod, a cold week like the last one is/was) easily runs 750kW —> with us around 35€/day Now please feel very sympathetic!!
 
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