Desire for joint property - currently separated

  • Erstellt am 2020-07-16 10:07:10

Ybias78

2020-07-16 15:36:34
  • #1


For that, she (as far as I understand) initially took care of the child mostly by herself. Should she now offset her contribution against that? Or if she/he does more around the house, should that also be factored in? How far should it go?

Personally, I find it already difficult when married couples have separate accounts. But as I said, I’m probably from a different generation at 41.
 

pagoni2020

2020-07-16 15:47:52
  • #2
That is absolutely unreasonable. Would she then also base a later sale on that price from back then or on the possibly increased price today?? Probably not— Why use this disqualifying description "charging," just because someone shares an actual price in a relationship? Two equal adults! I usually only hear such statements from people who are clearly on the favored side. If you were on the other side, you would surely have nicer sounding words like "fair, appropriate, or equal" to justify your price, of course a higher price. I find it unfair, , to deny "love" or call it "charging" just because he wants something openly, factually, and fairly arranged. I think none of you would give up your property like that. She has been living rent-free for a long time in a fancy house, and just THAT wouldn’t be done by everyone; that is already a gift in the mid five-figure range. My compliments, ! My wife and I wouldn’t come up with this idea; no one would feel good about that. ...I would be interested to know if you are actually that generous and unpretentious in your own life; we are probably talking about a mid five-figure amount, he has been more than generous so far. "I think I hear those words..." ...and that too can/must be properly settled in a relationship when the time comes, but that description sounds way too whiny to me. Yes, it will be resolved fairly and together! Your disparaging remarks are really completely off base. What makes a child make it "even crazier," that changes nothing. A solution simply has to be found that can feel fair to both. What is absurd, crazy, or who is being charged here? No one is being accused here and this is nothing unusual. You just have to dare to honestly stand by your position and then find a solution together. Using such stupid words against someone who is clearly generous and simply seeking a reasonable solution, I honestly find that sh...y!
 

Zaire32

2020-07-16 15:49:12
  • #3


I agree that she does not pay rent. During the week, she takes care of our child more because I am always away for long periods. I also do not feel at all exploited by her, I want to make that clear again.
 

shenja

2020-07-16 15:56:40
  • #4
Then that's already good. Would she even get a loan on her own, and would the bank only register the mortgage on her half?
 

Tamstar

2020-07-16 15:56:57
  • #5

I once described the reverse case here: My partner wants to buy property, we want to live in it together, but he wants to have the property 100% in his name (e.g. so that in case of emergency he does NOT HAVE to sell because he has to buy me out)



There was back and forth about it and I had the same consideration as you: I would benefit if I only paid the additional costs. But from the other perspective, you can see the repayment rate as a direct investment in his retirement provision. And to put it bluntly: why should I build HIS wealth while I myself, if it should fall apart, have NOTHING.

Therefore, I am now on the trip: separation of the consideration of investment (repayment rate) and housing costs (additional costs, interest, depreciation).
And I am willing to count half of that. And through what you call "rent-free living," I can do what he does: build wealth.
(Whether through another property, ETFs, or however else is then up to me).

Yes, I would have to pay rent elsewhere, just as he would then have to cover 100% of the costs alone. So we mutually benefit from each other.
 

pagoni2020

2020-07-16 15:59:06
  • #6

You can find this calculation or such examples endlessly, for both opinions. It is also not a question of age. I have experienced both and find this version more honest and clearer for both sides; but initially more painful to "negotiate."
I know couples who always have joint accounts, but I especially know women who feel controlled and restricted by that, because the old man always has the final say as boss and decides that the third cordless circular saw is more important than the woman's next blow-dry.
Both ways work equally well, because I know couples who have separate accounts and live great with it. Sometimes I spend money that probably no one would understand. Why should my wife have to bear that if I buy my x-th thing? Just as she buys or does whatever she wants and I can be happy about it. If it were my money too, I would eventually ask if it really had to be and spoil the fun for her. But not like this; I enjoy it with her. What should be wrong or less loving about that? I feel it’s rather the other way around!
We have a joint account for general things and would have no suspicious word to say about it even today. Everyone makes sure that it is fair. In case of need, you rely on each other and no one ever stands there with a calculator.
 

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