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What I appreciate about Miele is that there are still rotary knobs and no touch displays. Using the knobs is much more comfortable and practical. I am already bothered by the operation without knobs on the induction cooktop.

I think Miele is good, but I don’t really like the operation on the oven that much. We are wavering between Miele and Gaggenau. Personally, I like the Gaggenau door that opens sideways. It’s comfortable for shorter people because you can stand directly in front of the opening. I also find the menu navigation on the Gaggenau more straightforward, which I like. We also liked the cleaning function on the Gaggenau steam oven (we will have a fixed water connection for the steamer, so only Miele and Gaggenau are options).
Bookstar: Exactly that bothers me about the Miele devices that are being considered at our place: scrolling through an endless number of queries on a display. Gaggenau has exactly two rotary knobs with which you can set everything. Miele, for example, asks what I want to do in the steam oven, how much it is, etc. There are functions for fixed menus that you can select, etc. With Gaggenau I enter time, temperature, and humidity and off I go. One reason why we are currently leaning more towards Gaggenau.

We will visit both showrooms in MUC sometime soon and take a close look at everything and then decide. I can gladly report how it went.

Washing machines: ONLY Miele. My ex had a Bosch, and the laundry never got as clean as I’m used to (my mom had Miele). When I parted ways with the guy and the washing machine and needed a new washing machine, it was clear that I would buy a Miele. I have been more than satisfied with it for 12 years now, just like with the dryer, which is even two years older.

New features for the washing machine? No, I don’t need any. My washing machine has to wash, handle easy-care fabrics, and do extra spinning and rinsing. It does that. I have never missed a massage function.

Okay, it may be that with the more complex Miele appliances it is like that. I only know the entry-level models at Miele, for those I don’t need menus. Oven on, set temperature and go.

We don’t need steam cookers etc., for that we have our beloved Thermomix .

That is ingrained in me, that Miele is the ultimate.

However, this view has mostly been simply adopted uncritically from the parents or the like.

And some don’t believe it: Men also get old sometimes – and are then also glad to be able to use proven operating functions (I deliberately don’t say "outdated").

You don’t suddenly become dumb as you get older (Alzheimer’s excepted) and lose the ability to do things you could do all the time. You just have more difficulty learning new things. That’s why I don’t have to deal with this problem before I get old and then buy a new device. I will be able to operate my familiar oven (especially since I don’t expect to use the devices bought now then anyway. I’m only 35…)

I’m already bothered by the operation without buttons on the induction cooktop.

That’s why the Neff cooktop is set for us. The Twistpad is simply great

I personally like the door on the Gaggenau that opens sideways.

I like the Neff door that disappears into the oven floor even better I seriously don’t understand why Neff is called so disparagingly here in places. The hot appliances are great, the BSH customer service too (by the way – does Gaggenau still have its own or are they fully connected in this regard?). The refrigeration appliances are good standard and the dishwashers clean (but not as well dry as Miele, even not with zeolite). I don’t even want to start with the price-performance ratio…

Back to the thread topic!

The excavation pit is being filled and compacted again here. A window in the basement isn’t going in *hm*, specifically at the back for our storage space. There was actually supposed to be a smaller window with a shaft. But that was forgotten during the setting and was supposed to be cut in afterward. I already somehow knew that would be forgotten again. And that’s exactly how it was. So it could still be done, but it would be uuumbersome and anyway, it’s just a basement and it’s also ventilated, what shalls? Well, I gave in to the concentrated male power (my guy, the traitor, had also switched sides!). Not earth-shattering and it saves us about a thousand, but I hope it doesn’t happen like that in the living area as well. And I admit (thank God I’m not reading here *ahem*): I once thought: without a window in that room you could install shelves along the entire wall...oh well... but in order not to give in so easily to this male crowd, I’m now a bit miffed about it.