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If I haven't misread, food delivery services are going public!!!!! Lieferando, Hellofresh, etc. have become market giants by now (I didn't even know that until recently), if I'm not mistaken. These resource-wasting users and constant orderers are among us here, and when I ride my bike or nibble on a blade of grass, but at the same time help these companies go public with my behavior, the balance just doesn't quite add up and I'm sitting in a glass house.

Sorry, but that's not correct in terms of ecology/climate. Every delivery service, whether food or clothing, has a smaller carbon footprint than stationary restaurants or retail. Leaving aside the throwaway policies of Amazon, Zalando, etc. Just imagine the heating and air conditioning costs of H&M, Zara, McDonald's, etc. Delivery services are much more climate-friendly! But I don't want to mess up another thread again :p ;)

Yoda is very pissed off now that you call him Gremlin! :mad:

I am a real philistine in this area. Sorry.

I mean that, surprisingly, people cook less at home today despite the increased importance of kitchen technology than they did in the past when there was only a wood stove in the kitchen. Great kitchens = food delivery service with trillions in revenue........maybe I'm too blonde, but it occurs to me that the higher status of the kitchen today cannot be solely derived from its usage o_O For me, it is incomprehensible that people regularly, logically, have lukewarm food of mostly mediocre product quality delivered to their home, which they could easily prepare themselves in the simplest rental apartment kitchen with a few simple steps and some patience. I buy an expensive, comfortable sofa, but often prefer to sit on the Euro pallet delivered to my house...to put it bluntly. I am probably in the minority here, but with food delivery services on such a scale today (except for those in need), I have absolutely no understanding if someone wants to live environmentally consciously while also liking to criticize the behavior of others.

well, the people with great kitchens are certainly not the majority ;)

Every delivery service, whether food or clothing, has a smaller carbon footprint than stationary restaurants or retail.

Interesting statement. A specialist article in "Environmental Science & Technology" by the American Chemical Society concludes that the last mile is crucial for the CO2 footprint when it comes to stationary retail versus delivery service and describes the use of the vehicle as well as the bundling of purchases. In rural areas, delivery services drive long distances with old cars. In Cologne, you can also have food delivered by e-bike. This once again shows that it is not sensible to evaluate technologies and procedures in principle and to ignore the application levels. There are many good reasons to solve things in different ways.

That's just my thought on it. But almost every household, even simply furnished ones, today has a significantly better-equipped kitchen plus all imaginable appliances than people had at the time when there was no such delivery craze. Therefore, in earlier times, the demand for food delivery would have been significantly higher than today. It is simply and almost exclusively one's own convenience that has created such situations. As a lover of convenience, I have no problem with that, but one should be aware of one's convenience in this regard and also admit to it. Of course, delivery services may be more profitable mathematically than something else. But a tank also needs more fuel than a V12 engine, which does not necessarily make it appear more sensible. Delivery services gone, taking more leisure time for one's own food, preparing what is available, drastically raising prices for exotic and resource-hostile goods... in this direction I could imagine a sensible development; for others, this would mean regression or loss of comfort. I would see it as a great gain and would embrace it. The Scandinavians live at least a similar approach, although expensive alcohol is nevertheless consumed in large quantities there.