Wait with the building application because of the child construction allowance

I suspect in certain constellations, but only this year because the deadline for purchase contracts until 09/2018 expires on 31-12-18, there will be planned C-sections if the child is due in January/February 2019. Or hot baths with hikes into the high mountains.

I just read such a case in another forum earlier.

Yeah yeah, people get inventive for 12k€.

I suspect in certain constellations, but only this year because the deadline for purchase contracts until 09/2018 expires on 12/31/18, there will be planned C-sections if the child is counted for January/February 2019. Or hot baths with hikes into the high mountains.

I read such a case earlier in another forum.

Yes yes, people get creative for 12k€

Well, wouldn’t you be one of them yourself?

I find it incredible that people who already own property, so actually should have enough money, still try to cheat; or bring births forward or disguise the move-in date or whatever. If you’re involved and receive funding, great. If not, then that’s just how it is.

Everywhere I read that people are ranting about the welfare state (here too). Bad people from abroad come here to rip us off blah blah blah. So who is actually committing the fraud here? I really find that unbelievable.

By the way, we would also be eligible for funding, we would just have to register my boyfriend’s son with us. But we definitely won’t do that.

Well, wouldn’t you be one of them yourself?

I find it unbelievable that people who already own property, so actually should have enough money, still try to cheat; or bring forward births or conceal the move-in date or whatever.
If you are eligible and receive the subsidy, great. If not, then that’s just how it is.

Everywhere I read complaints about the welfare state (also here). Evil people from abroad come here to exploit us blah blah blah. Who is actually committing fraud here? I find that really incredible.

By the way, we would also be eligible for the subsidy, we would just have to register my boyfriend’s son with us. But we certainly will not do that.

Re-registration yes, definitely. C-section absolutely not.

because the deadline for purchase contracts until 09/2018 expires on 12/31/18, planned cesarean sections will take place if the child is counted for January/February 2019.

If it's early January (and a cesarean is planned anyway for whatever reason), okay, but FEBRUARY? Which doctor would go along with that? They would probably lose their license because of it. Overall, this is likely more of a marginal issue. Postponing the move-in (or re-registration) by a few weeks, on the other hand, will probably happen more often.

Well, wouldn’t you be one of them yourself?

I find it incredible that people who already own property, so in fact should have enough money, still try to trick the system

One has saved 150,000 EUR in cash, the other has paid off a small condominium worth 150,000 EUR... where is the difference?

One receives child building allowance, the other does not...

The regulation is simply stupid (not only in this regard).
That many try to influence and fulfill the regulations through these rules is almost self-made. And when I read the initial reactions from KFW, BMI, and the CDU/CSU parliamentary group in the Bundestag in response to inquiries, they almost seem to encourage such ideas.

I wouldn’t do everything for it either... but if the difference between being eligible for funding and not is that I sell my apartment to end up in exactly the same position as if I hadn’t bought it back then and saved the money, then I do it... without guilt.

I find it unbelievable that people who already own property, so basically should have enough money, still try to cheat; or bring forward births or conceal the move-in date or whatever. If you’re eligible and receive the funding, great. If not, then that’s just how it is.

Everywhere I read complaints about the welfare state (also here). Evil people from abroad come here to exploit us blah blah blah. Who is actually committing fraud here? I really find that unbelievable.

By the way, we would also be eligible for funding, we would just have to register my boyfriend’s son with us. But we definitely will not do that.

On property:
While Malle-Kalle squandered his money, Friedrich saved and invested the money for his future in a house.
Why should he be "punished" for that?

"Whoever owns property has enough money".....where does this insight come from? Do you know how much the house was mortgaged for?

"Evil people from abroad"......this is about redistribution of German taxpayers' money. Whoever pays 40,000 euros a year in income tax may also get something back in times of full coffers.
Social immigrants, however, only take from the pot... without paying in.

So you voluntarily give up the 12,000 euros. I can’t imagine it, but if so, your decision.