I'll try it the other way around. How much gross income do you need to reach 95k€ zvE?I was only bothered by your statement that 95T zVE means 7T net.
With 95T zVE, ~24,150€ taxes are due. That means, net only 5,900€ calculated over 12 months.
I was just bothered by your statement that 95T zVE means 7T net.
At 95T zVE, about €24,150 in taxes are due, that is. Meaning, net only €5,900 calculated over 12 months.
I don't understand what you want to tell me. I only posted the upper limit of what is called the middle class to put the perception of some users here, who feel they have it particularly hard, into perspective with reality. What exactly the net amount is, I would have to calculate, but what it means for any feasibilities (of what?) is completely irrelevant at first.I just have to smile. You do realize that 95k€ taxable income (zvE) is something like 7k€ net? Manageable with 2 children in kindergarten or primary school age?
I want to say that just under €7k net, even more with child benefit, no longer has anything to do with the middle class in the overall German average. But you can gladly send me the statistics via link as a private message. With €7k gross, however, I would agree with you!I don't understand what you want to tell me. I only posted the upper limit of what is called the middle class to put the perception of some users here, who seem to have it particularly hard, into relation to reality. What exactly that is net, I would have to calculate, but what it means for any feasibility (of what?) is completely irrelevant for now.
Move-in planned: 2019
Necessary notifications: 2016, 2017
Child born and wedding in 2017
Means: 2016 unmarried and both full earners --> bad
2016 without child + 2017 with child = (75k zvE + 90k zvE) / 2 = xWe have a similar topic.
The question is, what limit applies to you in the year 2016? The child was not yet present at that time. Is it now 90k or 90k + 15k zvE?