Floor plan planning shortly before submitting the building application

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kbt09

2017-10-03 12:36:07
  • #1
I would strongly recommend a proper and ergonomic kitchen design to you. Right now, you have to walk around the island every time to get to the fridge, meat/vegetables, etc., then to the sink to wash up, and then back to the stove. Basically, every route goes from the kitchen row around the island to the fridge. It would be much more comfortable with a sink island, and due to the sill height of 125 cm in the window row, a cooktop with ceiling extractor or downdraft extractor could also easily be installed there.

Why have 2 seating areas in the kitchen?

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In general, I notice the sill height of 112 cm on the ground floor and 100 cm in the upper floor above the finished floor level. I find that too high for normal windows, especially in children's rooms. I have 85 to 87 cm here, and imagining almost 30 cm more means that people under 170 cm sitting down won’t necessarily have a clear view outside.

Unfortunately, I no longer know if the plans are oriented to the north ... in any case, I could better imagine Child 1 with the wide window on the wide wall side and the narrow window on the narrow wall side.

For Child 2, I also find the flush right window completely inappropriate ... a cupboard will always have to leave a gap to the window, and it still looks odd.

Therefore, my suggestion is "form follows function," especially since the 3x2 window fronts are already different due to the wall column between Child 2 and the bathroom, and there’s no other reference to the lower floor or anything similar. I would work on that more.

Where I would really like to see the section is of the basement stairs, which come up and end shortened under the stairs to the attic.

And, I still don’t like the entrance to the living room.

I find the wardrobe over-dimensioned for just under 250 cm of wardrobe cabinet.

The dining area and couch are still somehow incorrectly positioned – right? Think about the electrical planning, so realistically furnish it, then you won’t forget any outlets, switches, etc.

Shower in the children’s bathroom ... you walk in and face a wall; I would rather place the shower at the bottom of the plan by the window, even if the bottom window might just be very narrow, about 66 cm or so (see also Child 2). In any case, I find the children’s bathroom layout unsuccessful.

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These were now more or less all points that have already come up in the other thread.

You should really start gradually filling the plans with realistic furniture planning. Bathroom and kitchen planning are especially important because water pipes have to be planned here as well.
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2017-10-03 12:57:40
  • #2


They simply drew something in that was not coordinated with us. I have already repeatedly addressed the furniture that is incorrect in various rooms, but they say they will only do that as part of the detailed planning. The bathrooms will also not remain as they are drawn. Basically, none of it is correct.



I don’t understand that either.



Yes, I think we will still work on that. Is it correct that this can still be done after submitting the building application? The architect says yes.



I’ll request that.



Yes, it is very big. But making the WC even bigger doesn’t make sense either. It will show what the use of the wardrobe will be. I don’t see any other approach at the moment. And that’s a pill you can swallow.



Yes, that is wrong! They had it drawn correctly once, now suddenly it’s wrong again! I will call again tomorrow and discuss a proper furniture drawing. Otherwise, how else am I supposed to do the electrical planning, etc....



Both bathrooms are unsuccessful. Tomorrow we’ll take an extensive look at the bathroom topic. They just drew something in for the bathrooms as well, but told us that of course we can plan it however we want.



Exactly; that runs through almost all the points you mentioned. Therefore, we now also have to have a kitchen planned at the kitchen studio. Then we would have kitchen, bathrooms... I will draw in the other furniture myself and send it.

What is only annoying is that we have the appointment for plumbing tomorrow and the dressing room has not yet been enlarged, i.e. we have no proper measurements for the bathroom planning.
 

kbt09

2017-10-03 13:12:52
  • #3
Unfortunately, dimensions are missing, but for the dressing area, I would rather steal some space from the sleeping area.

Well, I don't think significantly changing the building application and windows is a good idea. And therefore, urgently furnish and plan the rooms ideally and then check the window planning.

What do you think about the [Brüstungshöhe]? Don't you find it too high?
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2017-10-03 13:17:36
  • #4


I think we said half and half.



Not the building application, but the architect said that despite the building application it is not a problem to change something at the windows later on.



I’m also sitting at 86 cm here. I have also sat at higher parapet heights. I cannot give a statement on that off the cuff; it was also never really an issue, and I liked it in the 3D interior visualization. I need to show my wife the alternatives with a tape measure in a moment.
 

11ant

2017-10-03 13:55:54
  • #5
Lightweight wall. Acoustic aspects were of course taken into account.

Safe. That is an absolute must for a cabin in this price range. Otherwise, you're dead if the XY main characters stand by your bed. They would never believe that there is no safe in the house. So you have to have one there. I would prefer it to be nicely placed in the technical room though.

Wind monitor. Yes, planning with the home automation system sounds good. Otherwise, it might not fit the bus system or such nonsense later.

Window change. Here too, I have considered all optical consequences and weighed them conservatively. The "post" is visually completely absorbed into the Smokey Eyes.

Beams. You don't need to ask me about that, the structural engineer will know what he's doing. He doesn't want his professional liability insurance to be upgraded.

Construction contract before approval. Of course not.

Changes after submission. Yes, they are absolutely common. They are called "tektures." There are never zero. Moving windows, yes or no to intermediate doors are real classics.

Bathrooms still without exact measurements. The first fifty posts in the bathroom planning thread can be done based on the drawings so far.

Parapet heights. Parapet height 112 is, in my view, a hybrid between a viewing window and a transom. But I already said (here or via PM) take painter’s tape and stick the planned height on your current windows, then you can "visualize" it.

Garage intermediate door. I also already said: prepare the door lintel in advance and fill the door opening with aerated concrete blocks, then postponed is not canceled.
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2017-10-03 14:24:36
  • #6


Is that only interesting at the bathroom / dressing room interface from your point of view? Or should one consider it elsewhere as well? Presumably, that also reduces the costs somewhat.



The technical room would also be an alternative. Of course, we have also thought about that. But if you have to run to the basement every time to change the clock, change jewelry etc., that’s not so great either. Presumably, we will do it that way, since doubling the wall in the bedroom to accommodate the safe at nearly €2,000 is not exactly cheap either. But that is not necessary either.



I still had this valuable tip in mind and had already carefully noted it on a checklist.



We never talked about that with the architect during planning; it just happened.

Just now we took a look at it here at home with a tape measure. We now have windows on the 1st floor with a parapet height of about 88 cm. We find that okay here because the view looks out onto an open field. But on the front of the house facing the street, I think it doesn’t hurt if it’s a bit higher. But in the office and the living and dining room windows, you really have to think about it again. I want to be able to comfortably look out into the beautiful garden sitting from the office.

I just pulled a few more pictures of the window situation from the interior visualization. The old window arrangement is still in the children's room.


 

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