Floor plan planning shortly before submitting the building application

In Cologne we say: Boy, you’re crazy! – how do you come up with such, in my opinion, absurd ideas?

Touching and configuring: OK, I can still understand that
Creating a bill of quantities for materials (for a professional)?: Sorry, that’s complete nonsense!

Those were the concerns of a Hülsta salesperson. It’s clear that you can’t take that 100% at face value, since they want to sell. But of course as a buyer you want to know that if you have a cabinet "reproduced," it will have the same quality of material and workmanship as well as durability. The question is how you want to ensure that.

What do you want with such deep cabinets? I find it a waste of space, you can’t reach the back anyway (except maybe exactly at torso height, but even there it’s annoying to have stacks in the back).

I don’t find it excessively deep. It includes not only the interior but also the middle door etc. – a jacket on a hanger also wants to hang inside.

I think that’s the wrong choice. The dressing room is, I’ll say it plainly, given the possibilities of this room, not a dressing room but at most a walk-in closet.

Yes, you’re probably right. It’s a bit off the assignment. We told the architect that we sleep differently. One gets up at 4:30 a.m. and wants to get dressed quietly, the other goes to bed already at midnight when the partner is long asleep. We therefore wanted a separate dressing room where one can get dressed and undressed. One has to think about how to realize that. A chair or something should be included. The laundry basket would have to go into the utility room and you just go over there briefly.

That always sounds to me like the wardrobe somehow has to be representative.

We just like high-quality materials. For us, not for anyone else.

Do you also want to discuss the hallway furniture here?

No... but what we considered is maybe bringing in an interior designer to add some pep to the rooms.

Have you ever dealt with a carpenter?

Yes, I know that from work. Sometimes we have office furniture made when the standard sizes from manufacturers don’t provide furnishing options. And from my experience, the carpenter does custom work but at higher prices with simultaneously lower material quality. It’s clear that you can commission higher quality work there but then the difference would be even greater.

I only once had a carpenter for a single-family house who looked at the mirror in the bathroom. He then wondered why it should be made of wood and not drywall; he didn’t understand that. He never sent an offer afterwards.

Special solution --> Professional
Standard in a hurry --> General contractor or Hülsta

Have you ever dealt with Hülsta? It’s a very good manufacturer that is extremely versatile in most things. Standard is maybe the Pax, which is always written about here but definitely not premium furniture that you have for life. My parents have had Hülsta in their bedroom at home for almost 40 years and are still happy.

our last bedroom (double bed and wardrobe) was also from Hülsta. There was nothing to complain about in terms of quality, yet after 20 years everything ended up in bulky waste. We don't necessarily want furniture to last forever, otherwise you can never redecorate and maybe your taste changes again.

Best regards
Sabine

Hülsta is alright. I also don’t see any learning resistance in it, like Wickie Schieb. The robber is not exactly an off-the-shelf guy and has individual wishes, but now realizes that this means complexity and he lacks the time for it. Even if you don’t have to choose the glue and the screw at the carpenter, the selection there is still more demanding, at least more elaborate, than using a modular system. Unlimited configuration options unfortunately also mean that as a layperson you forget an important but unknown detail. Or assume a standard that unfortunately isn’t one. If the partner doesn’t point this out, everyone does their own thing and in the end the door is suddenly too low. That’s why my point is either you should have planned significantly more time for the project or have a partner who guides you through it intensively. Alternatively, you reduce the complexity of the undertaking. House from the catalog (2 days sample tour, done) or, quite “extreme,” a developer’s project where you only have to take care of the furnishing. PS: With Hülsta you always get 20% off the list price. Real offers are at 25%.

Alternatively, one reduces the complexity of the project.

We thought so too..... to involve an interior designer. Although that is a bit late, if power is still needed somewhere for indirect lighting, etc. - would also work well for the living room, etc.

Yes, I know that from work. Every now and then we have office furniture made when the standard sizes from manufacturers don’t allow for furnishing. And my experience is that the carpenter does custom work but at higher prices with simultaneously lower material quality. Of course, you can commission higher quality there, but then the delta would be even greater.

I only had a carpenter for a single-family house once, who looked at the mirror in the bathroom. He then said he didn’t understand why it should be made out of wood and not drywall. He never sent me an offer after that.

Have you ever looked into Hülsta? It’s a very good manufacturer that is extremely variable in most things. Maybe the Pax is the run-of-the-mill model that is always talked about here but it’s by no means premium furniture you have for life. My parents have had Hülsta in their bedroom at home for almost 40 years and are still happy.

Yes, I have looked into Hülsta. But I don’t like it, so it’s not relevant for me. I never said the quality isn’t good. These are indeed high-quality pieces of furniture, I don’t want to question that at all.

Maybe our carpenter is a lucky find. But surely it also has to do with the fact that we know exactly what we want. And you can surely explain that to the professional quite precisely and easily (sketches, comparison photos, etc.). And just to get good quality, I don’t have to specify which glue he should use. Hopefully, as a professional, he knows that better than I do when I tell him where the piece of furniture is supposed to stand.

I don’t see any resistance to learning in that, like wickie schieb does. The robber is not exactly buying off the rack and has individual wishes, but he now realizes that this means complexity and he lacks the time for it.

Spending my energy on a wardrobe in the dressing room or understanding my work plan including the heights of doors and windows... That conflicts for me.
And if I have individual wishes, I have it made (and it’s not necessarily more expensive!!) and don’t buy mainstream Hülsta. Maybe I just have a different opinion there.

I simply think the priorities are not set correctly.

I unfortunately also have to say that the priorities seem strange to me. At least when the thought of an interior designer comes up regarding the topic of dressing room and wardrobe. Those are probably the two rooms where you spend the least amount of time.

A tip on the side: if one of you is a very light sleeper, he could hear the sliding of the sliding doors even with the door closed.

Otherwise, I would really say, postpone decisions that are not ABSOLUTELY necessary. And think carefully about what is actually ABSOLUTELY necessary. In my impression, your priorities are sometimes... not well thought out (see winter jackets that are supposed to go into the dressing room).

You already have furniture, with which you can balance quite a lot for now – maybe even everything! Then you also have the time to calmly think about the interior designer (but rather for the living room or the large hallway).