Floor plan planning shortly before submitting the building application

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11ant

2018-07-29 23:24:38
  • #1
Now that I'm at the reading glasses age, I sometimes think about something like that again - but then I remember how it looked and let it rest in peace.
 

Climbee

2018-07-30 07:40:27
  • #2
Honestly, I find mirrored cabinets, whether surface-mounted or recessed, totally retro, sorry. Barely acceptable if you really live so cramped that you can't find any other storage space. Otherwise, any other solution looks better.

Do you have an installation pedestal there? Then better use it for the daily (really reduced) small stuff (toothpaste, for example, is on our washbasin) and rather place a bathroom cabinet nearby with the important utensils. Then it's no longer a problem.

I really feel sorry for you with all the trouble that's pouring down on you now, but honestly: I can't understand some things, how you didn't stumble over them during planning. I'm probably exactly in the phase now where these big "little things" are relevant for planning and I really think about every corner whether it's how I imagine it, how it looks, what this or that means. If I don't understand something or I'm not sure, I ask, mentally go through the house already and pay attention to tons of little things. With you, I get the impression you already liked the design pretty well as it was in 3D and now it will just turn out that way. A general contractor will always choose the easiest (and cheapest) option for themselves. A recessed mirrored cabinet (whether you find it nice or not) should simply have been marked accordingly in the construction plan, at least I would only have felt comfortable and given my approval to the construction plan if it had been included. In our case, the niches in the shower for shower gel etc. have to be drawn, what should be illuminated where and how etc. I want sockets in a few unusual spots (e.g. under the dining table). I want to see all that in the CP and have it agreed upon. As I said, I really feel sorry for you with the trouble, but to speak completely free of blame and just blame the GC, I just can't manage that anymore... And yes, you are not a professional. But I wouldn't assume that a GC will definitely point out all the pitfalls (above all: they might see it quite differently), you have to get into it yourself.

Lessons learned for everyone still in the construction planning: really question everything, understand it, and agreements just have to be recorded in the CP!
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2018-07-30 07:56:03
  • #3


It's just a temporary solution anyway, since the initially drawn boxed-in area turned out to no longer fit properly for the washbasin/bathtub passage.



What is that? I'll attach the extract here.





I keep asking myself the same and blame myself a lot. On the other hand, I tell myself that I did everything possible. a) Spent hours, nights, and days in front of the plans etc. b) Hired a construction consultant who reviewed the design, the contract, and the execution planning to identify exactly these problems early on c) posted intensively in this forum, asked questions, noted things; our house has a lot from this forum! Without the forum, it would never have become as good as it is now, notwithstanding the flaws



We had a 3D visualization where you could walk through the house. There the glass surface appeared much more generous everywhere and it was not noticeable that we had a problem here. Other things, however, were noticed there and were corrected.



No, absolutely not. I had no life besides the house construction and my job. Only researched, checked, and did. But as a layperson, time investment alone is not everything. I am certainly many things... but relaxed I am definitely not.



Exactly; I was well aware of that, which is why a construction consultant was involved from the start. That he also didn't see everything is unfortunate but can't be changed on my part now. Then I tell myself again, if a construction consultant who looks at the plans for two hours (windows) doesn't see it, why should I have noticed that it doesn't fit?



I was told several times that this is not done. For example, the drawing of the lighting plan is also not their concern (only on the ground floor because of the factory-prepared filigree ceiling).



This is not about black-and-white thinking. Believe me; I blame myself so much that I partly suffer health-wise from it. I do not absolve myself of mistakes and do not generally badmouth the GC, even though I am dissatisfied in many areas.



That worked for many things... but not everywhere... I had to get into everything, KNX electrical, basics of floor coverings, and so on... hundreds of topics! And all that on the side.
 

Curly

2018-07-30 07:56:57
  • #4
I also find a large glass mirror on the wall prettier but not very practical. I don’t want any utensils lying on the washbasin either, I think that looks untidy. With the mirror cabinet, you can also see yourself from behind with the foldable mirrors, which is important; for me, the practical function of the mirror cabinet is more important than the appearance.

Best regards
Sabine
 

Climbee

2018-07-30 08:08:11
  • #5
Matter of taste
From behind, I see myself with an extra hand mirror that is in the pull-out drawer under the sink, which I find more flexible. With a folded mirror door like that, you always have to contort yourself half over the washbasin.
But as I said, I'm easygoing about it; whoever likes it, for whatever reasons, should go ahead. I just don't like it.

Puuuhh, robber, you really scare me. I think our general contractor already thinks I'm a nitpicker, but after your story, I'll probably top that reputation...

I don't see an installation pedestal for the washbasin in the plan now. That's a sort of false wall, about 10cm deep, where the installations run. You see that in many bathrooms; above it is usually the mirror, and this ledge is often used as a shelf. I find the mounted shelves visually about as unappealing as mirrored cabinets.

Pictures say more than words, so: something like this

 

R.Hotzenplotz

2018-07-30 08:17:17
  • #6


This is the current plan. Previously, something like that was drawn in. That’s actually how we wanted it. But it simply doesn’t fit!

They had drawn it in before but only sloppily and with incorrect furniture measurements. I basically had to beg them to even include my bathroom furniture, to change the tub from 180 cm to 190 cm, etc. – they always wanted to put me off, saying they would do it later, and then time just ran out... simply sad.

 

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