Hanging house in the Southwest Palatinate - Our House Construction 2.0

Regarding the kitchen wall: I already think it's good because otherwise you run into the side panels of the tall kitchen cabinets. However, I would have moved it further to the left according to the plan and also moved the staircase to the left. Why it doesn't start at the outer wall is unclear to me. That would result in a significantly larger kitchen. I would place the sofa against the interior wall, otherwise it stands in front of the window and you look at a wall instead of into the garden. HAR doesn’t need a door from the hallway in my opinion. Access through the garden equipment room and possibly additionally through the fitness room is sufficient. You hardly ever need to enter there. Then the bathroom could gain more space. Downstairs, the shifted staircase would create a slightly wider hallway. I find 1 meter already borderline – also to get the furniture around the corner. But I don’t know which walls are already built on your side ;-)

We also have the parquet mats for the office chair and have been rolling on them for 5 years, daily for the last 2 years. Brushed and planed oak parquet. You can’t see anything! For me, nothing beats parquet. I have it in all rooms, including the hallway and kitchen. Despite dog and cat. That’s why we also mop more often on the ground floor and oil it every 2 years. This way water or other liquids don’t penetrate as quickly and it gets a richer color again. Upstairs and in the basement we haven’t oiled in 5 years, as it’s not mopped as often and it still looks like new. So I am clearly PRO parquet. I would only tile the entrance area at your place and switch to parquet already next to the stairs.

I wouldn’t take any prisoners there either. We have both bathrooms from the Beton Greys series by Terratinta Ceramiche in different colors (once in cold color and once in warm). Aside from the fact that the catalog is really worth seeing, I checked and it’s R10. We have had no problems with either shower.

Take a look at the catalog, they also have such great patterns like the ones you like. For example, Marrakesh.

I’ll take a look or maybe ask the tile dealer again.

Are there any more experiences with level-access showers and tiles? Has anyone maybe used R9 and can report?

Otherwise, today we were at kitchen studio #3 for a planning meeting and surprisingly had a quite different result this time. I like the kitchen from Studio 3 best so far, and I find the price/performance ratio best so far. But it’s still hard to compare because the plans are partly a bit different.

Studio1: Overall the weakest consultation, especially regarding electrical appliances. Price-wise we were just under 22k for a Nobilia Chalet (which is quite an expensive front).

Studio2: Overall the best consultation, especially intensive regarding electrical appliance equipment. Also good planning tailored to our wishes. The result so far a bit sober/boring. You can surely have it redesigned. Price-wise we were at 19.7k, but for a Häcker C130. Electronics were Bosch/Siemens, fridge Liebherr. The cooktop is identical in all three plans and therefore irrelevant.

Studio 3: Overall the visually most beautiful/most harmonious planning. Electrical appliances all Miele except for the cooktop. That’s already a plus (at least I have them firmly in mind as really expensive), kitchen is a Nobilia Sylt, but this time in Magnolia. We had it in black in the old house. Price-wise at 19k, but with a second dishwasher. That probably adds another thousand (or so)?

I know, it’s apples and oranges compared. We have meanwhile said goodbye to my beloved/dreamed seating bench in front of the panoramic window. I found the idea beautiful, but for that we would have to give up so much workspace that hardly any would be left.

Studio 3 also planned with a farmhouse sink. I never really had that on my radar, but I think it gives the whole kitchen an incredibly great charm. Aside from the huge window otherwise quite a lot would be missing that I would connect with farmhouse kitchens (wall cabinets and frills/ornaments). I think it was nicely balanced in today’s plan by the glass doors in the island, the open finishing shelf, and the farmhouse sink.

Oh yes, the handles on the tall cabinets are not perfect yet, we didn’t get to them anymore, but of course we would make them consistent.



And here again the two views from Studio 2, with and without seating bench. (That would be the Häcker with Bosch/Siemens appliances).



For the Häcker, the side panels go all the way down to the floor. I have to ask if that would also be possible with Nobilia. Visually I like that much better.

Oh yes, and to top it all off, today we also discovered a beautiful kitchen by Schüller. I had really determined not to let myself be swayed by any fashion color again (last time black :D) away from my magnolia-colored farmhouse dream. And then we discovered this little gem here in reed green. I’ve been drooling over it a bit. Part of me wonders if I will still like it that much in 5 years. Anyway, I liked it enough for the consultant to run the numbers for us again.

I just had to laugh heartily, we obviously have completely opposite tastes.

With Häcker, the side panels go all the way down to the floor. I have to ask if that would also be possible with Nobilia. Visually, I like that much better.

The first thing I told the kitchen studio with Häcker's suggestion was that the side panels should definitely n o t go all the way down to the floor, because I find that visually disturbing and I find it much nicer otherwise.

I had made it my goal not to be swayed again by some trendy color (most recently black :D) away from my magnolia-colored country house dream.

And this time I absolutely wanted black because I was tired of the magnolia color on our old kitchen and didn’t find the color modern and puristic enough. :D

If you were happy with the front in your first house and liked the kitchen’s cabinets, drawers, etc. and you like the one from Studio3 best anyway, then I would go for fine-tuning there. Do you explicitly want a 2nd dishwasher? Our studio suggested adding a 2nd one, but for us it wouldn’t make sense and wouldn’t be used often. For me, having the oven and dishwasher at half height was important.

Oh yes, and about the green kitchen: My first one was blue and I was quite glad that the next tenant bought it from me when I moved out 2 years later. Such “extreme” colors are not for me. But people are different there, too.

I also like the green extraordinarily well ;).

Sink in front of the window ... will that be a sliding window? Otherwise the question is, can the window still open if there is a sink there?

Glass and open shelf on the back of the island .. you have to be aware that this is only suitable for storing nice things. Does that fit? Have you thought about what will go there and whether it will become too messy?

Where is the oven? Somewhere under the cabinet? Which oven with which operating principle? Nowadays it is often touch operation with displays. They are generally more convenient to use if they come roughly to eye level. So try it out.

Is that supposed to be a raised dishwasher? And why two pieces? The refrigerator door division seems unusually high to me. How is that intended?

Do you explicitly want 2 dishwashers? Our studio suggested a 2nd one to us, but it wouldn’t make sense for us and wouldn’t be used often. For me, the oven and dishwasher at half height were important instead.

Yes, absolutely. During the 2 years in house 1, we always joked: "our next kitchen will get 2 dishwashers." Back then we didn’t know it would be that soon. :D But what started as a funny idea became a "why not," because it really bothered us not to have a second one.
We put absolutely everything in the dishwasher except my husband's cooking knives. Everything else goes in. And whatever the dishwasher couldn't handle has no place in my household.
They suggested that to you? That’s funny. Our kitchen planner from studio 2 said "I’ve never had that." :D

Oh yes, and about the green kitchen: my first one was blue and I was pretty glad that the next tenant bought it from me when I moved out 2 years later. Such “extreme” colors are not for me. But people are different there too.

I somehow felt similarly about the black one. We had the absolute "WOW" moment at the kitchen studio, and I was completely blown away by the color. But over time, I could have imagined it lighter than cozy. I wasn’t exactly sick of it, but sometimes I missed a bit of warmth.

I also really like the green ;).

Sink in front of the window... will that be a sliding window? Otherwise the question is, can the window still open if there is a sink there?

That will probably be a panorama window. But that doesn’t bother me, I’ve had that in every kitchen for the last 14 years.
It’s always on the ground floor, so you can clean it from the outside.

Glass and open shelf on the island’s backside... you have to be aware that this is only suitable for storing pretty things. Does that fit? Have you thought about what will go there and whether it might become too busy?

Yes, that’s what it’s intended for. The backside of the island faces the living area. I don’t really like a completely minimalist style, so a few nicely arranged items make it feel cozy for me.
Probably cookbooks will go on the open part, and maybe a few nice decorative objects.

Where is the oven? Somewhere in the base cabinet? Which oven with which control system? Nowadays it’s often touch controls with displays. They are usually more convenient to operate if placed roughly at eye level. So give that a try.

Is that supposed to be a raised dishwasher? And why two of them? The refrigerator door division seems unusually high to me. How is that meant?

The oven will be on the other side of the island. I would have preferred it raised as well, but having raised dishwashers is more important to me. We use the dishwashers daily, the oven rather only 1-2 times a week at most.
The display thing is a very good point though. We need to think about that.
The division of the fridge doors is purely for symmetry reasons. Behind it is a full-height Miele refrigerator.