Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

Buschreiter

2023-09-25 18:32:33
  • #1
Absolute agreement! With purchase price factors of 30 and more, the return on invested capital including the risks (no rent payment, vandalism, excessive wear and tear of the apartment, and so on) is far too low for me to consider buying for the purpose of renting out. Ergo: The properties must get cheaper or the required capital. Rents cannot (and should not) rise to infinity either.
 

HeimatBauer

2023-09-25 18:46:25
  • #2
What would IMHO also help: A strict focus on the warm rent! How often have I experienced that people only looked at the cold rent and dismissed the additional costs as background noise. How often have I heard an enthusiastic "Haaaach, these beautiful high ceilings! Well, I could niiiiiiie live in such a new building, it’s just oppressive! Haaaaach, these beautiful old double-wing windows, that’s real quality and not this plastic stuff, I can’t even touch that! Heating? Oh whatever, somehow it will be heated, the main thing is I can make everything nice and warm in winter!"

All experienced live. Hours of explaining the different heating systems and then visiting in winter – at first getting heat stroke because the entire house was really heated to 25 degrees – of course not with the practically free wood heating but with the night storage heaters still موجود as an emergency measure. When the first electricity bill arrived, there was a big drama.

Yes, folks, I would also like 3m ceiling height everywhere. 25 degrees in winter with all doors open. I just can’t afford that or I don’t want to afford it at the expense of other things. Whoever builds themselves learns it very quickly through the price – but also immediately thinks about when it pays off.

I’ll lean way out the window and say: Part of our problems comes from the fact that so much is rented here and so little is bought. Whoever rents plans for the rental period. That is absolutely okay but the owner MUST plan long-term and when these two goals collide, inefficiency arises quickly.
 

Buchsbaum

2023-09-25 21:57:45
  • #3
Currently, the risks for landlords are enormous. Hardly anyone is willing to take risks anymore. And it’s not just the construction costs that are slowing down residential construction. If there were money to be made here, meaning the return on capital would be in a balanced risk/reward ratio, then enough apartments would also be built.

The state does not build apartments; it is always private companies with private capital. And unfortunately, the framework conditions for landlords have long been inadequate. Starting with the guidelines for legally secure heating cost billing to fire protection requirements.

More and more regulations, legionella testing, smoke detectors, remote reading, etc. All cost money. In the end, there must be tenants who can also pay the rent on time.

It is not populism, but someone has to pay the refugee costs. And that will be the property owners. Property tax, further increases in ancillary costs such as garbage, water, sewage.

If on the one hand we hear cheerful reports that municipal trade tax revenues are higher than ever and on the next day that the coffers are empty, then something is wrong. But it must be addressed clearly. The costs of the welfare state are no longer sustainable and it will tear us apart.

Apart from that, the state could, like in the GDR, found a housing construction combine and build affordable apartments itself that it can then rent out. In the East, hundreds of thousands of prefabricated slab buildings have just been demolished. Which is still happening by the way. You can’t expect a refugee, within the framework of housing planning and residence obligation, to move to Halle, Gera, or Dresden. They prefer to live in downtown Hannover. That’s clear.

Every day new funding pots are driven through the village. Depreciation subsidies, grants, interest-free loans. The situation can change every day and existing properties are either snatched out of your hands again or explode in price. Likewise, they can become significantly cheaper. The chaos and, with it, the uncertainty are very great.
 

markusla

2023-09-26 07:45:22
  • #4


And the costs you mentioned, I as a tenant don’t pay them? That is exactly what is passed on through the additional costs, i.e. it does not affect the landlords, but the tenants.
 

Buchsbaum

2023-09-26 08:39:01
  • #5
Of course, the costs for you as a tenant will also increase. But on the one hand, politics will cap the rents, which is already happening, and on the other hand, restrict the ability to pass on costs. I expect a dramatically rising property tax and the abolition of cost passing on to tenants. Here, I see risks. Furthermore, there will be attempts to levy pension and health insurance contributions on profits from rental income for private landlords.

In the process, politics doesn’t understand that the problem is not money but bureaucracy and excessive tenant protection. You practically can no longer get rid of troublemakers or "Mietnomaden" (problem tenants), just as little as you can evict delinquent tenants. And if you do, then only with great financial effort.

But don’t worry, it won’t end in Armageddon for the tenants. First, let the municipal heating planning get underway. The complaints have already started. Power grids are not designed for heat pumps, district heating infrastructure is extremely expensive. The cost per meter of district heating pipes for new constructions is said to be between 3000 and 6000 euros.

Just this morning there was a report on DLF. In Krefeld, for example. 3 percent use district heating, 80 percent gas, and the rest oil or heat pumps.
Now, on the one hand, the city’s power grid would have to be completely renewed because of heat pumps. Expansion of district heating and construction of local heating units. Complete overhaul of the gas grid.

On top of that, especially for tenants, come horrendous heating costs in the form of electricity, hydrogen, or district heating.

Big plans from the government. I have to take my hat off to them. However, the municipal officials don’t seem too comfortable with it, as you hear. They still try to package it a bit with the CO² footprint and climate protection. But they also know it’s unaffordable and not feasible. Of course, they can’t say outright that it’s all nonsense.

And as the colleague from Krefeld said, a heat pump itself is no problem, but an entire street with heat pumps, which usually all start heating at the same time in cold weather, the city doesn’t have correspondingly powerful power grids. He says that new additional power lines would have to be laid everywhere. Then district heating pipes, then gas grid overhaul, then new substations. Anyway, it’ll somehow work out.
 

markusla

2023-09-26 09:17:49
  • #6
And where do you get your assumptions from? That's all just crystal ball gazing... You write as if all this is going to happen.
 

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