Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

chand1986

2024-07-11 11:24:48
  • #1
But that is something different from what he expresses. And one can wish for that without lying and cheating (pardon: defending oneself). And that the majority of people do not wish for less state at all surprises me not in the slightest. When was the last time you looked at the people and did not notice a certain overwhelm, although so much is already regulated for them? Few come up with the idea that overwhelm can also arise when one thinks everything must be regulated. But none of that has anything to do with the ramblings of Buchsbaum here. It's about a completely misguided sense of justice, see the flat tax ideology. One simply has to think things through completely, not just feel them through. That is where it fails.
 

filosof

2024-07-11 11:32:06
  • #2
and

I just want to take a moment to thank you for not giving up and bravely continuing to present facts and well-founded arguments against the nonsense of the poor craftsman. Unfortunately, I don’t have the nerves and time for it, which is why I’m glad that you are so committed and that this BS does not go uncommented. Of course, you won’t convince the originator of the crude theses, but for all others who read this and might otherwise fall for the polemics, it is essential. So thank you!
 

MachsSelbst

2024-07-11 11:57:20
  • #3
Overwhelm can also arise because there are more and more rules that must be observed in order to avoid overwhelming the citizens.

But there is also a completely different problem. Life has become more complex and "dense."
40 years ago, my mother stayed at home all day and "only" did household chores and childcare.
And just 10, 15 years ago, quitting time was quitting time. Today, you are reachable everywhere, 24/7, and this is now expected in many professions... silently of course, not officially.

It is even worse with the news. 20, 30 years ago, there was the newspaper and at 8:00 p.m. the news broadcast. You got 5, 10 news items of the day, and that was it.

Today you are bombarded; every news spreads around the world immediately, there are entire TV channels that show only news, around the clock.
This creates the impression that everything is getting more and more dangerous and that dozens of people are murdered daily in Germany. Because back then, much was only known locally, not every stabbing attack was reported nationwide, etc.

Humans are not made to run continuously in crisis mode. And even less can they abstract.
When it says the number of manslaughter offenses has increased by 30%, that sounds incredibly high.
But when you then read it is about, for example, 1,000 to 1,300... then that is still a very small number...

In Jamaica, the murder rate is 50 murders/100,000 inhabitants. In Germany about 1.
 

chand1986

2024-07-11 12:19:05
  • #4
And why are things regulated that were not regulated before? Because today we know infinitely more about the consequences of things we do or omit. Also consequences in the distant future (climate change), immediate consequences for people somewhere in the world whom we do not know (supply chains), consequences for ourselves (carbohydrate fattening including diabetes, mental problems correlated with media consumption). Thanks to research, we now have knowledge that we should consider for rational reasons, but to which we have absolutely no emotional access. The world contradicts common sense with many of these new insights because it is not made for that: In fact, only a few can do that quite well, and the societal gap between these and those who cannot is growing ever deeper. And besides education, I know no remedy. Unfortunately, those who consider themselves progressive morally discredit those who can change more slowly and thus only forcibly widen the gap. The problem is that this situation does not make the rants of any better. It may explain them, but not validate them. They are nonsense nonetheless. Reacting to a problem with nonsense solves absolutely nothing.
 

MachsSelbst

2024-07-11 17:38:03
  • #5
Yes. Not every regulation has to be bad. However, in my opinion, we have gone too far with bureaucracy and documentation. A good example is industrial safety technology.

In the past, there was a two-hand control, and if the operator tampered with it, the response was "Your own fault, you knew that the saw could cut off your hand if worse came to worst." Today, the person who built the saw is responsible if they cannot prove with 100 pages of paper that they have considered all possible scenarios in which an operator could manipulate, bypass, etc. the safety function. Even if the program and hardware worked correctly and met all guidelines. If the documentation is missing, you are practically halfway in jail.

Sometimes it seems to me that it is more important to make the documentation for our plants 100% flawless than the plant itself. A huge part of the hours you calculate now goes into that.

And even if you can abstract, what is the consequence of that? Regarding climate change, the consequence for all of us should be to forego vacations far from home, give up our cars and switch to buses, trains, and bicycles, eat only vegetarian, etc. Does anyone do that? No. Because even people who think abstractly say, "Why shouldn’t I do all that? I only live once, and as long as he and she don’t do anything, I won’t either."

Although that is also a luxury debate. The poorer part of our society already lives quite climate-neutrally. They simply don’t take vacations, live in small apartments in multi-family houses, often have no car. Simply because they can’t afford it.
 

nordanney

2024-07-11 17:43:16
  • #6
I rather don’t believe that. Apartment in a multi-family house that is neither insulated nor equipped with a modern heating system, but heated with oil. If they have a car, then an old one with high CO2 emissions. Just two (significant) examples.
 

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