Teimo1988
2024-11-28 13:44:38
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Finally lunch break. Sorry, longer again, but that's just how it is.
You just assume that healthy people voluntarily prefer to live on Bürgergeld rather than go to work. Have you ever lived on about 30% of the median income? Nobody does that voluntarily. As I said, the actual number of such conscious total refusers is not even known, because determining that would require an incredible amount of personnel, bureaucratic, and financial effort; this would involve weeks-long monitoring visits, possibly surveillance by detectives, psychological and medical assessments to make it legally sound. The figure of 14-16 thousand comes from the number of applied sanctions, which, as I said, are also issued for repeated missed appointments. That also includes people who are mentally ill, who don’t even know where or why they have to show up and what consequences might follow. So before you cut off all benefits, you have to ensure that the person is fully able to work, understand what sanctions mean and what steps lead to them, and then the person must still decide against taking up employment. Additionally, it must be clearly established whether the work is actually reasonable, since this is also individual and cannot be determined in a blanket way.
My personal opinion is that someone who voluntarily lives on Bürgergeld even though they could physically work very likely has psychological or cognitive limitations. And you would first have to rule that out before denying such a person the absolute minimum for existence.
Again, there are much bigger levers than dealing with so-called total refusers. I do not want taxpayer money to be wasted on pure symbolic politics that does not change the overall situation.
By the way, France and Italy actually have a higher social benefit rate than Germany.
And listen, if you don’t want any social security and prefer anarcho-capitalism, you can emigrate to Argentina now; you probably won’t be better off there, but at least you know everyone is equally badly off...
A wealth tax could bring us 80 billion euros per year, and that with corresponding allowances and a procedural cost rate of 3%.
The rich would not become poorer; they would only become less rapidly richer. How can people demand inhumane policies for peanuts but defend the privileges of their own exploiters? That is schizophrenic.
Most people here are not affected at all. The idea that you might belong to them someday is a LIE, a fairy tale told to you so that you toe the line and kick downwards and sideways instead of targeting the real parasites.
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Yes, Poland has tougher conditions for Ukrainian refugees than Germany. This mainly led to the fact that most Ukrainians simply left Poland again. I cannot legally judge this for Poland, but in Germany it is not constitutionally different. Ukrainians enjoy subsidiary protection as war refugees, and as such they are entitled to Bürgergeld. Therefore, it is also a deception by Union/FDP politicians to now demand that Ukrainians receive less; that would be simply unconstitutional.
By the way, the number of unemployed Ukrainians is also exaggerated, because out of the approximately 1.1-1.2 million Ukrainians in Germany,
894 thousand are of working age (about 290 thousand <15 years, about 124 thousand >65)
531 thousand are registered as employable
In August 24, 221 thousand were employed subject to social security contributions, with an additional 51 thousand marginally employed.
100 thousand not registered as unemployed are in integration courses, and simply judging the language barrier here as insignificant is, put mildly, tendentious. Of course, German is much harder to learn, and at the same time the spread of Russian or Ukrainian in German workplaces is less common.
206 thousand are registered as unemployed. Most of them do not have completed vocational training and can therefore only be employed as helpers, semi-skilled workers, or trainees, where there is currently no pronounced shortage.
Across Europe, the employment rate of Ukrainians in Germany is in the middle range, so one cannot say that Bürgergeld leads to disproportionate unemployment among Ukrainians.
These are the kinds of arguments I can’t understand. It’s the same as saying pushbacks at the border violate EU law. Of course, you can do that, just as you can reduce Bürgergeld to food vouchers and bunk beds in shared accommodation (I’m not saying that I want that).
These are values that a society has to negotiate, and you cannot just refer to some bureaucratic procedures. Exactly this kind of referral creates extreme political disenchantment, at least for me.
You can certainly tax the rich more. As a society, you can do all kinds of things. Only with us, for everything it’s always said it’s not possible because of God knows what.
In my opinion, direct democracy/referendum would help a lot here.