Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

Schorsch_baut

2024-12-07 13:15:48
  • #1
Therefore, much more emphasis should be placed on the development of alternative energies, etc., and they should be supported until they are market-ready. Instead, everything that is promoted by the Greens is demonized, and people mourn the old technologies. Absurd.
 

MachsSelbst

2024-12-07 14:55:50
  • #2
Where do we intend to get the money for this? Should the rich be footing the bill again?
 

chand1986

2024-12-07 15:02:07
  • #3
National debt. And I mean that completely seriously. The rest of the world does too. Those who live off the debts of others are eventually told by these others: do that crap yourself. And everyone knows that not every sector of the economy can save at the same time without the economy sinking. - The private household sector traditionally saves in Germany. - The corporate sector has also been saving for a few decades. By the way, it was exactly the opposite during the economic miracle period. - The German state does not make offsetting additional expenditures. - Foreign countries pumped the missing money into Germany for many years and are now slowly stopping. Who takes over the role of the foreign sector now? If no one does, there will be no well-running economy. So I want a concrete statement: economy, state, or private? I want to know from you. Whoever knows exactly what is not possible must also say how it can be done! By the way, money is not a physically limited resource. Technically, there is as much as you want - albeit with consequences.
 

Teimo1988

2024-12-08 09:58:42
  • #4
Germany has been taking on new debts every year in recent years.














































Year Debt level (billion €) in % of GDP Change in debt level (billion €)
2023 2,624 63.7 + 62
2022 2,562 66.1 + 66
2021 2,496 69.0 + 155
2020 2,341 68.8 + 271

Source: Bundesbank.

I would rather question whether the money is going to the right place. The same applies to the export surpluses mentioned here. If all of it ends up in some EU funds, the money just seeps away in bureaucracy and only a part of it maybe reaches the Mediterranean region.
There is enough money. It should only be used for our own citizens and interests.
Immense debts like those the USA are currently making will bring unpleasant consequences. There are also countries with lower national debt and a good economic situation, e.g. Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, the Netherlands, South Korea.
 

Jesse Custer

2024-12-08 10:51:08
  • #5
Ok, then let's list it:

- Denmark: we have a branch there - the colleagues groan under the cost of living, bureaucracy paralyzes productivity, and there is a shortage of people
- Sweden: the gap between rich and poor is widening, gang crime - and climatically I find [D] better too
- Norway: cost of living exorbitant, not so great climatically either, and the food is terrible. Proper food is unaffordable for a large part of the population.
- Switzerland: ok, I'll leave that out - one of the few countries I know and would also emigrate to. Only problem: then WE are the foreigners. The Swiss are not much different from the Germans, maybe even tougher.
- Holland: sure, I like living in a country that will very likely just be gone someday...
- South Korea: sure, and I also like living in a country whose northern border is guarded by a horde of heavily armed and yet undernourished half-wits just waiting to overrun me.

No no, it’s not too bad here...
 

chand1986

2024-12-08 10:57:16
  • #6

Look, just as an example of how opinion comes about without knowledge.
We also have export surpluses with the countries of the Mediterranean region you mentioned here. That means money flows from there into Germany, not the other way around. By the way, we see the amount of net incoming money flows from other euro countries in the infamous TARGET2 balances with those countries.

A minor issue if you look at the volumes involved in the collapsing foreign demand.

You do not address the basic argument that the revenues of one are the expenses of another and therefore saving in one place necessarily requires debt in another. Why not?


Yes. They exist in two types: export surplus countries (Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands) and the others. The others either work through growing government debt (South Korea) or through labor costs that are much higher than in Germany, everyone pays into the statutory pension, overall more taxes (Sweden).
By the way, South Korea has absolutely the lower debt level, but relatively, of course, the larger increases. These just come from a much lower level. So more % of GDP per year in new debt. Every year!

And now there is a third type: Germany. It is supposed to work without more debt, without more taxes, without dependence on abroad, so obviously also without brains. I am curious how long one can live without brains.
 

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