Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

Aloha_Lars

2024-11-27 08:22:56
  • #1


It’s a shame that CDU/FDP propaganda apparently works.
The discussion is a complete smokescreen meant to distract from actual problems. Your problem: You look and kick downwards. You should have your gaze upwards.

Citizens’ money work refusers:
“Statistically recorded, however, is the reduction reason ‘refusal to take up or continue work, training, measure or a subsidized employment,’ which also includes further training and qualifications. It turns out that in the first eleven months of 2023, there were a total of 13,838 cases.” Source Tagesschau

Looking upwards:
“Cum-ex deals enabled tax refunds even though the taxes had not been paid beforehand. About 12 billion euros have thus been lost to the German state through such tax dealings.” Source NDR
“At least ten billion was lost by the German state alone; including similar deals like Cum-Cum, the damage amounts to at least 35 billion euros.” Source ZDF
“Trautvetter explains that this is also due to the fact that these people have the resources to find legal ways around taxes. ‘Very many super-rich people use tax loopholes and move very close to the boundary between tax evasion and so-called aggressive tax planning.’ This ultimately leads to super-rich paying far less tax than average employees – legally and without tax evasion.” Source MDR
“Some politicians vehemently demand cuts in social benefits, especially for citizens’ money and pensions – and the federal government indeed wants to cut social expenditures by at least 1.5 billion euros. Certainly, there is occasional abuse of social benefits, although it is important to emphasize: the overwhelming majority of recipients are honest and reliable. The costs of this amount to roughly 60 million euros a year according to very rough estimates, which may seem like a lot but is very little compared to other sums. Estimates show that the German state loses nearly 100 billion euros annually in tax revenues due to tax avoidance, especially by the wealthiest.” Source DIW

Of course, you don’t hear this from CDU and FDP, since you don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Therefore, once again: direct your gaze upwards, not downwards.
 

Schorsch_baut

2024-11-27 09:23:39
  • #2
You can't squeeze the poor high performers even more. They have a hard enough time in this society, which envies their [Tag Heuer], even though everyone knows that you can't impress anyone in Zermatt with it anymore and the ski school for the children has become more expensive again.
 

Tolentino

2024-11-27 09:30:19
  • #3

Yes, that was stupid, but not voluntary either: no more money, thanks to CDU and FDP

You need to explain that in more detail, please. From my point of view, it was an internal coalition sabotage action after the unfinished draft law was allegedly leaked by the FDP, in which the planned subsidies for the socially weak were not yet included, and then a brilliantly coordinated smear campaign with twisted facts ("functioning gas heating must be scrapped," "Habeck builds you the gas boiler") was started by almost all media. At the same time, a strange loyalty freeze on the part of the Greens, who then did not want to say anything as long as it was not settled internally within the government. So communicatively a disaster, yes, but not necessarily inferior regarding economic competence.


That is a business decision (initially frozen for 2 years) on Intel’s part, after incurring losses and having to cut thousands of jobs worldwide. They are currently struggling hard with the competition. Habeck is not to blame for that. Personally, I am also against these flat subsidies in the form of cash grants.
But these subsidies do not apply for now anyway.


True, they should have tied more conditions to the subsidies from the start. But at least the green steel plant is being built, so the subsidies are not entirely lost.


You would have to specify more exactly why that is a flop for you. 2.8 billion of the planned 10 billion have already been allocated after less than a year. Ok, there is criticism because it is too complicated and mainly large companies benefit. But those are precisely the ones where the leverage for CO2 reduction is greatest.
And that does not yet mean that this is the end of the road.


Well, the ideology club is often whipped out when it comes to the Greens. In reality, I see that the Greens are almost tearing themselves apart because they are so realpolitically pragmatic – unfortunately also being undercut.
And ideologically, it is rather the gentlemen from the FDP acting, "Lower corporate taxes!", "Slim state!", "Debt brake will not be touched!" thereby preventing urgently needed investments.


Sorry, no. We don’t agree there. Lindner is the one who has been playing opposition within the government for at least two, rather three years. If anyone, he should have done that at the latest last year, otherwise it is simply unfair. The FDP used to be an important element in German politics when it came to freedom and liberalism, but nowadays it has degenerated into an anarcho-capitalist cult whose attempts to disguise its lobby activities should actually fail completely. I fail to understand why they even still reach 4% in polls.
 

Schorsch_baut

2024-11-27 09:40:54
  • #4
Lindner is after all the prime example of an Agent Provocateur. The purpose was from the very beginning to cause the failure of the government in order to clear the way again for the CDU/CSU and to massively damage the political opponent.
 

Teimo1988

2024-11-27 10:48:25
  • #5
And I would call that left-wing propaganda. In Germany, the top tax rate applies at an annual income of 66k€. That is 3400€ net in tax class 1. With that, you can’t really make big leaps, at least in our latitudes. And it is exactly these people the left-green crowd is talking about when it comes to “strong shoulders” and all that nonsense.
 

Schorsch_baut

2024-11-27 10:57:15
  • #6
And that is exactly the problem, isn't it? People are afraid that it's not about the large fortunes, but about their own modest prosperity. And with that, they have ensured for over 100 years that the middle class does not identify with the poorer people. Until 1997 there was a wealth tax, and when there is talk of reintroducing it, figures like >2 million euros are on the table. And not everyone from the top tax rate.
 

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