Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

Buchsbaum

2023-10-07 08:31:03
  • #1
Local heating networks are not district heating networks. There are indeed differences.

District heating, as the name suggests, is supplied from a distance. For that reason alone, it is significantly more expensive. New construction is almost impossible and hardly affordable in highly dense cities. In rural areas, it is unprofitable.

Here, local heating must be the solution. In my neighboring village with about 150 inhabitants, there is a good example. A biogas plant about 3 km away has laid a local heating network into the village and connected the houses there on a voluntary basis. I would have done that immediately, but unfortunately it is not possible in my village. The mayor also wanted to build a new biogas plant for our village as well as another one. This was rejected by the district.

But if we now want to heat rural areas with biogas, wood biomass, and other renewable raw materials, then we will have warm backsides but nothing left to eat. I can only use agricultural land once.

We want to build wind turbines on our fields, grow corn and other crops for biogas plants, and install photovoltaics on arable land. We cultivate rapeseed for biofuel, sugar beets for bioethanol. There is less and less land left for actual food production.

The large energy companies are already sending their representatives out and offering farmers ten times the rent if they lease land for photovoltaics.

Let’s not kid ourselves. We in Germany are completely sick and so broken that nothing reasonable will come of it for the foreseeable future.
I was once on vacation in Croatia. In a construction time of under 2 years, the Chinese built a bridge here to the Pelješac peninsula.
Along with 2 tunnels and a small bridge.



And after we in Germany were not able to build a fiber optic network, are still building it today, and are 20 years behind the times, we build a district heating, local heating, and power grid brand new in record time. Instead of building new bridges, here they are demolished and closed. Our mobile network has gaps like in hardly any other country. For that, the operators had to buy extremely expensive licenses.
The state did generate nice revenues, but in return, we have one of the worst and most expensive mobile networks in the world.

Maybe we Germans should slowly stop seeing ourselves as the center of the world. Things are going rapidly downhill!
 

Buchsbaum

2023-10-07 08:40:46
  • #2
I have one more question. Specifically, who actually has lower electricity costs than 10 years ago after switching all devices to energy-saving models and renewing their lighting with energy-efficient LED? Maybe the consumption has decreased, but the electricity bill somehow hasn't gone down.
 

kati1337

2023-10-07 09:26:35
  • #3
Sherlock is onto something big here... :D Just look at what your PS5 needs and compare it to what your PS1 used. If you hadn’t switched to energy-saving lamps & co, you would be paying EVEN more now. Compared to back then, we simply have a lot more electronic gadgets in households that need electricity. Just look at how many power outlets a house from the 90s had, and how many a new building has. It’s not by chance.
 

xMisterDx

2023-10-07 12:15:30
  • #4
It was about 10 years... to the 90s it's clearly more than 10 years...

My mother consumed more electricity in her 80m² condo than the four of us did in the end in a 98m² rental apartment. Because there is still the halogen ceiling floodlight, grandpa's 20-year-old freezer, and a refrigerator that is at least 15 years old.

PS
Could we agree on "guck," that is, the correct spelling. I'm not writing the dialect spoken here either.
 

Smarti99

2023-10-07 13:34:32
  • #5

Maybe the worst, yes, but not the most expensive. Telekom wants to invest massively abroad because people here pay too little. Besides, you can get sufficient data and flat rates for already 10 euros.


Apart from that, those who voluntarily commit to the district heating monopoly only have themselves to blame. Just like if you always stay with the basic electricity provider. Otherwise, you can switch annually and compare prices.
 

Buchsbaum

2023-10-07 15:48:30
  • #6
How many district heating providers can you actually choose from? It seems like you have several.

And a year ago, there was no electricity provider offering less than 40 cents per kWh. All providers increased prices in unison.

Theory and practice are far apart here. And with the annual switching of electricity providers, the strategy backfired for the thousands of customers of insolvent electricity suppliers. In the end, the sauce was more expensive than the roast.
 

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