Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

chand1986

2024-11-20 21:27:11
  • #1
Moving the goalposts. Typical for the way exactly such people handle discussions. Until today I don't know if it's intentional or stupidity.
 

Buchsbaum066

2024-11-20 21:50:34
  • #2
I am not revolting against the GEZ. I have just never paid. What am I supposed to do? I simply do not pay it voluntarily out of principle. There are always ways. Citizens receiving Bürgergeld also do not pay the broadcasting fee.



What am I supposed to do? I grew up in socialism. The Soviet Union was our brother state. I speak Russian fluently and know the culture very well. Should I demonize the Russians just because it is currently opportunistic? Should I get divorced because my wife comes from Russia?



I already said. There are private reasons that force me to stay here a little longer. But one can start planning the escape. I will not leave Germany, but look for a winter residence. On the Mediterranean where it is warm. I want to stay here in the summer. The economic decline does not bother me; it certainly does not affect me and I will not be able to prevent it. And death on the front will not catch me either. If it comes to that, I will go underground. I have never served and that will remain so.

Well, despite falling key interest rates, construction loan interest rates are rising again in November 2024. Is it due to the market?
 

nordanney

2024-11-20 22:39:30
  • #3

I won’t say anything more about the relationship between key interest rates and mortgage rates. I have already explained that to you dozens of times. If you still don’t understand, it must be your fault – because there is no direct connection at all.
And by the way, there is no increase. Too much vodka from the Soviet Union?
 

thangorodrim

2024-11-21 08:56:22
  • #4
Meanwhile: * The day before yesterday "Gruber Haus" goes insolvent (wood prefabrication, 270 employees). * Yesterday "Ziegler Holding" goes insolvent (one of the largest sawmills in Europe, ~3000 employees). * News on agrarheute from 15.11.: wood prices are rising sharply (internationally), construction timber is in short supply, the reason is high demand (relatively speaking). Actually, demand is low, but when a bit more comes along, due to just-in-time production there is not enough and there are immediately supply bottlenecks again. And production is going down because sawmills are closing. What do we learn from this? Do prices just keep rising? Is our economy not very flexible? Or provocatively asked, would more demand/supply shocks not even be better for the economy, because if the price doesn't have to go down anymore anyway? Then you can generate more profit when the waves settle again.
 

chand1986

2024-11-21 13:18:52
  • #5

You won't get any from me. Because I have not (nor anyone else) predicted a "rosy" future. Just not a downfall either. You would have to prove why such numbers, as unpleasant as they are, must lead to a downfall.

Okay. I admit, that would be bad.
Counter-argument: When has it ever gone on the same way for 25 years? Answer: Never. Because people are not like that. Neither on the sender nor receiver side. The right question is: WHAT are we changing? Something changes anyway.
 

Teimo1988

2024-11-21 13:58:29
  • #6
As you already wrote, the price of timber is formed internationally. From that perspective, maybe it's just the German viewpoint? There are also countries where the (construction) economy is running.
 

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