Why don't construction prices go down?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-15 08:17:32

HausKaufBayern

2023-09-20 07:36:23
  • #1
I actually see it as a huge problem that office workers suffer from low productivity – even managers in my opinion. Too little is questioned whether they are worth the money that the company pays them.

On the other hand, craftsmen have the option to simply become self-employed, and the job isn’t overly complex (just as little as office work in comparable salary regions). As a self-employed craftsman with a decent income (on the side) you’re doing quite well and reach salary levels that are significantly harder to earn otherwise (for example, a leadership position in a DAX corporation).
 

chand1986

2023-09-20 07:44:11
  • #2
It is even worse with kindergarten teachers and elderly caregivers. They don't produce anything at all... *sarcasm off* Yes, you have to have money. But then it is neither difficult nor time-consuming. Many who would have money don't do it because they consider it complicated and time-consuming, that was the point.
 

dertill

2023-09-20 07:58:04
  • #3


In my first quote, when I referred to unearned income, I was not talking about investing from the reserves of the working population, but about the concentration of wealth without effort in the owning class. That is a fact, no need for class struggle rhetoric.
It is also a fact that while everyone can implement your suggestion, not everyone can, and especially not solely live from it. Someone always has to produce what generates the interest or stock value increases. And wealth keeps growing, particularly among the top %, much faster than economic output -> so someone, meaning everyone else, ends up with less.

Others are slowly noticing this, and currently the only opposition party to appear is the AfD. It then represents a few popular theses that are currently not reflected in the rest of the party landscape (communication instead of confrontation, stopping the heating law, curbing EU power, immigration and its consequences) and gathers support with this. What is overlooked is that behind this stands the same economic and social policy, just further to the right. What is missing is substantial opposition from the left, so that not everything opposing current policy can be labeled right-wing extremist.
And yes, this especially includes tax and social policy to reduce or tax unearned income more highly and let it benefit the general public.
 

WilderSueden

2023-09-20 08:55:19
  • #4
Now honestly, how much time do you need for your finances? I would argue that you can get by with half a day per year and most of that is the tax return. The rest is checking insurance as well as electricity and gas providers and switching if necessary. You set up the ETF savings plan once and then it runs automatically. After a salary increase, you adjust it by x€, which takes less than 5 minutes. Finances are not complicated, only financial product sellers (“advisors”) try to make you believe that.
I'm not concerned about living off it. I'm more interested in breaking the logic of “we down here and they up there,” because for a large part of the population, that is wrong. Of course, someone living in an expensive city and earning minimum wage has a problem and cannot invest. But that has always been the case. The middle class certainly has the opportunity to invest significant amounts over a lifetime and ultimately also withdraw relevant sums. You just must not squander the money (there is plenty of complaining here about vacations, cars, children’s pools, etc. ;) ) and need to think of a high-yield investment
 

Oetti

2023-09-20 09:19:41
  • #5


What exactly is wrong with the heating law or where is the problem? The core message is the following:

If your old heating system gives out, then please buy a new one that meets the current state of technology and for that, you will also get money from the state.

Who nowadays or in ten years would still voluntarily install an oil or gas heating system in their property?

What I find amusing about the AfD is that they reject domestic energy production with "German sun" and "German wind" and instead prefer to continue to depend on "foreign" oil and gas suppliers and to crawl to the oligarchs/despots/dictators prevailing there to beg for energy.

Even more amusing is that the AfD regularly rants against foreigners, demands more bio-German children and propagates father-mother-child as the ideal and only true family model, with the mother supposed to stand at home by the stove. And who did I see on TV last night? Alice Weidel, who as an openly lesbian woman is married to a foreign woman living abroad and is also raising their foreign children with her. At the same time, she tries to show a "manly" front in public and dictate to others that their own lifestyle is completely wrong.

At the same time, they drag their 82-year-old Gauland through the press, who is supposed to shape the future of the country. He can tell stories from days gone by, but that’s it. What does this person want to tell me about central issues like digitalization? That he can turn his Nokia 3210 on and off and still (alone) withdraw money at the ATM with his EC card?
 

dertill

2023-09-20 11:28:41
  • #6

The "middle class" may feel like it exists, but the difference to the "lower class" is only the amount of available monthly income, which is earned through one's own effort/lifetime. Some of them may even have another apartment or a house which they rent out additionally and thus provide well for their own retirement.
The real dividing line is between those who have to work regularly for their income and exchange their lifetime or creativity for money, and those who don't have to do that because their money increases on its own through long-term investment in whatever.
So the logic of "us down here and them up there" is not wrong at all.



I have nothing against the heating law. But there is a significant part of the population that is very critical of it. Because it’s clear that it will cost quite a lot of money, and 50% subsidy on €40,000 is still a lot of money.
And if gas prices additionally increase (emissions trading) to encourage people to switch, and the government is simply not honest in its communication but sugarcoats everything, these people rightly feel deceived. I regularly hear what the conversion to heat pumps costs (which is not feasible for every house) and what people think of this obligation. I live in Schleswig-Holstein, where there is already a 15% renewable energy quota for heating system renewal, and normally it gets more expensive because of it. Of course, nobody enjoys that unless they are fully ideologically behind it.

And the fact that the willingness is not voluntary is clearly seen in the now again collapsing sales figures for heat pumps. Even here in Schleswig-Holstein, they are sitting in dealers’ warehouses and nobody wants them.
The same is happening with electric cars with reduced subsidies—they don’t sell so easily anymore either.

I myself am deeply involved in all the municipal matters with municipal heat planning and reinforcement of the power grids and can roughly see what work and costs are coming to the municipalities and ultimately the population.
Full cost accounting for future heat supply comes out at, regardless of the scenario, 20 ct/kWh, no matter what technology.


There is nothing to find amusing about that. Ultimately, it is currently the only active opposition party and apparently for many the only option to express themselves against the government. No need to support it, but recognizing the quackery yourself does not convince others.
 

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