Gas heating with solar thermal in new construction

2022-03-26 22:29:49

Somehow no one could answer my question :rolleyes:

maybe you should just assume that no one will install a gas heating system given the current situation. Period. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Because your question was clearly stated:

Who is currently building and installing gas despite the current situation?

2022-03-26 22:35:48

I named you a person ;)

Otherwise, I can't think of any of the semi-regular forum members. There are a few who still built with gas years ago, but new construction with gas is a dying species. For the multiple mentioned reasons.

What are the reasons that in your opinion speak for gas? "I don't like heat pumps" is not an argument for gas but against heat pumps

Oh, I overlooked that. Thanks! The reasons are firstly the low initial purchase price and the monthly additional costs. I have plenty of friends who built with heat pumps and all, really all, have immense additional costs. But also friends who have gas. Also my parents, as well as my brother (5-person household). Houses not built to the latest standards technically. Advance payments for years of 50-80€. In the last 2 years rather 80€-100€. Now all the heat pump fans come and install a 30,000€ photovoltaic system. Even if I include chimney sweeper, CO2 tax. Extra cost for heat pump and photovoltaic. How long do I have to heat until it pays off?

About my house: 190 sqm heated living area 36.5 aerated concrete triple glazing no insulation 2 filigree ceilings

2022-03-26 22:54:19

In new buildings, gas and heat pumps should not differ by more than €10,000 in total cost accounting. And that already includes the current delivery surcharge.

Why your friends have high ancillary costs, I don't know. I don't know anyone with a heat pump who has high ancillary costs. Neither in old nor in new buildings. You only ever see these cases on television.
Basically, there are only those who are happy to have chosen a heat pump and those who are regretting it now.

2022-03-26 23:32:22

I have tons of friends who built with heat pumps and all, really all, have huge additional costs.

Usually, the heat pump is not to blame, but rather a crappy heating design. The Polo is also not to blame if you always drive at 6,000 rpm and wonder why 15 liters flow through so fast... A gas heating system is simply "easier" to plan and forgives mistakes. The heat pump is a bitch in that regard.

2022-03-27 06:08:52

Oh, I missed that. Thanks! The reasons are, firstly, the low purchase price and the monthly additional costs. I have lots of friends who built with heat pumps and all, really all of them, have immense additional costs. But also friends who have gas. Likewise my parents, as well as my brother (5-person household). Houses not up to date in terms of construction. Advance payments for years of 50-80€. In the last two years rather 80€-100€. Now all the heat pump fans come along and install a 30k€ photovoltaic system. Even if I include chimney sweep, CO2 tax. Additional cost for heat pump and photovoltaic. How long do I have to heat until it pays off? About my house: 190 sqm heated living area 36.5 aerated concrete 3-layer windows No insulation 2 prefabricated ceilings

You will hardly get an advance payment of 100€ anymore. We just closed.. 100 sqm house and have an advance payment of almost 200€

2022-03-27 09:57:07

Hello, Who is currently building and installing gas despite the current situation? What are the reasons for choosing gas and not an air-to-water heat pump? Our shell is currently being built and I cannot get excited about a heat pump. No one can look into the crystal ball, but I think gas will remain indispensable in the coming decades

We are currently building a new single-family house and have decided on a gas heating system, which we will operate with biogas for little additional cost, if at all. We also assume that the gas heating system will be operated with hydrogen in the medium term, even though that seems a bit complicated. Here, I simply trust in development and research. I wrote a long and very detailed answer to your question, but then deleted my response again because the decision for a gas heating system instead of a heat pump is not well received here in the forum. If it hadn’t been so impolite, I would have preferred to avoid answering your question altogether. ;-)

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