Air-water heat pump current consumption and data

  • Erstellt am 2020-09-29 11:06:43

tomtom79

2021-03-12 14:32:39
  • #1
Including drillings only 1000 euros difference?
And yes, the COP is rather poor for geothermal energy.
 

guckuck2

2021-03-12 14:51:30
  • #2


I’m roughly calculating again in my head ... drilling all-in was about ~7800€ (including paperwork, improved grouting material, sludge disposal, etc.). From that, 4500€ came from BAFA and 500€ funding from the state for the drilling.
The heat pump itself was about 1500€ cheaper than a comparable air-water heat pump, which also requires the outdoor unit including installation.
So yes, somewhere in the range of 1000-1500€ surcharge – thanks to funding.
The nice thing is, if the heat pump breaks down, you don’t have to spend money again for the heat source. Hopefully, the drilling will outlive me; I wouldn’t really expect that from an outdoor unit of an air-water heat pump (mechanical component, exposure to weather).

Yes, the COP is not very good. Maybe the integrated heat meter is garbage too. But it can’t be completely wrong, since I have an energy meter and can roughly estimate the power consumption of the heat pump. If it operates at roughly 1.3kW with 6kW heating output of the heat pump, that corresponds to a factor of 4.6. But that would be a heating cycle; the hot water is less efficient and pulls the average down accordingly.
The COP bothers me a bit. On the other hand, the heating costs are so low (2400 kWh per year, about 480€ p.a. with a heat pump tariff) that any optimization attempts are actually pointless. A COP of e.g. 4.8 would correspond to a power consumption of 2100 kWh per year, or 60€ savings. That would be nice, in the magical triangle between consumption costs, acquisition costs/wear, and comfort, but probably negligible.
 

FF2677

2021-03-12 14:56:53
  • #3

:eek:
With only a €1000 surcharge, it's a no-brainer. Especially here in the south, where winters are milder and air-to-water heat pumps become less favorable.
I would have expected almost an extra zero there.
 

FF2677

2021-03-12 15:00:43
  • #4
yes, if the heat pump breaks down 10 years earlier, the costs fall under maintenance for me.
 

guckuck2

2021-03-12 15:01:12
  • #5
The drilling costs, like all construction costs, depend on the region and the local price structure.
Furthermore, it depends on the type of subsoil and the required depth (we have 1x120m).
So there is a huge location factor.

But we also had offers like "Ground source heat pump €15,000 surcharge." How this comes about was also easy to explain, because the mentioned offer was not even based on a heating load calculation, let alone a valid calculation of the required drilling. It was offered by a plumber "from one source," but drilling would have been done by a subcontractor from somewhere else who was not involved in creating the offer. So everything was just a rough estimate with a large risk premium.
Since we built with an architect, it was no problem at all to have the heating system properly designed in order to then approach drilling companies with the correct heat pump model and its performance, to request drilling with a known extraction capacity. Then, lo and behold, very different prices come out.
 

FF2677

2021-03-12 15:07:06
  • #6

What is the diameter of the drilling?
Are there steel pipes then?
 

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