Air-water heat pump current consumption and data

  • Erstellt am 2020-09-29 11:06:43

nordanney

2021-02-09 13:36:33
  • #1

Honestly? Grab your plumber and 100€ and connect the heat pump directly to the underfloor heating. Everything else is nonsense.
 

halmi

2021-02-09 14:07:35
  • #2

I have already suggested that x times, but he is attached to his buffer + pump ;)
 

Zaba12

2021-02-09 14:08:46
  • #3

I have in mind that with a high and desired heating curve (bathroom runs at 23-24 degrees) including buffer, the consumption is still moderate.

You ask questions where everyone says the design is fine and you’re looking for the flaw because the temperature spread isn’t 5K but 2.5K.

It’s the same discussion as with humidity. You don’t have controlled residential ventilation but want the values as if you had controlled residential ventilation.

Feel free to correct me if I remember it wrong.
 

Alessandro

2021-02-09 14:18:48
  • #4
no, I just want to understand if I don’t have a flaw in my thinking.

My reference variable is the buffer temperature.
If I have a small temperature difference in the underfloor heating of 2-3K at -10° outdoor temperature, it is of course even smaller at higher outdoor temperatures, which in turn causes the heat pump to short cycle.
Wouldn’t it therefore make sense with my hydraulics to increase the temperature difference in the underfloor heating and work with higher pressure, so that 1) the heat pump has more flow and thus more efficiency, and 2) the buffer tank doesn’t heat up as quickly?
The underfloor heating doesn’t care whether I have a 2K or 8K temperature difference, since the circuit is independent of the heat pump.

By the way, my HTHK has a temperature difference of 6K, while my utility room has a temperature difference of 1.5K and is almost a hydraulic short circuit.

My consumption is pretty constant at 28-30kWh, despite a high heating curve (18/30, 0/35, -15/38)
 

nordanney

2021-02-09 14:37:12
  • #5
Actually, it is done exactly the other way around. Small delta T, but high flow rate. How is the heat supposed to be transferred if you keep supplying more and more heat (= high flow rate) to the underfloor heating? The underfloor heating doesn't care. The energy consumption does. If you have an 8K delta T in the underfloor heating, "cold" water arrives at the buffer and has to be reheated with high energy input. If it arrives "warm," it requires only little energy to reheat it appropriately. Then the heating engineer gets a kick in the butt and a "good one" is chosen. It's quite simple.
 

Alessandro

2021-02-09 15:16:23
  • #6


I don’t understand that, because if the heat pump is set to a 5K temperature difference, but the underfloor heating only delivers 3K, then the heat pump automatically throttles the flow rate down, right?
 

Similar topics
20.12.2013New underfloor heating instead of radiators and controlled residential ventilation; yes or no?15
06.11.2015Set controlled residential ventilation KFW 70 with underfloor heating18
20.10.2016Water-bearing fireplace stove floor heating, heat pump, photovoltaic, new construction?28
19.09.2023Cooling via underfloor heating with brine heat pump45
25.11.2015Offer air-water heat pump including underfloor heating, ok?19
06.06.2019Cooling in summer with air-to-water heat pump, underfloor heating and/or ventilation system?29
24.07.2019Energy Saving Ordinance 2016 or KFW 55 for bungalow with air-water heat pump & controlled residential ventilation, optional photovoltaic47
12.01.2021Underfloor heating air-water heat pump. House too warm when the sun shines690
27.01.2020Properly setting the air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating54
29.03.2020Commissioning of 9.3 kWp system combined with air-to-water heat pump and controlled residential ventilation10
12.11.2021Central room temperature controller for ERR underfloor heating76
13.07.2020Heat pump & central residential ventilation21
10.08.2020How to tell if underfloor heating is running - ERR still without thermostat cover50
15.12.2022Electricity consumption at home, what is your consumption?418
20.01.2021Air-to-water heat pump consumption at 30 kWh per day52
24.08.2021Cooling with heat pump via underfloor heating?117
08.10.2021Air-water heat pump combined with underfloor heating does not work properly65
25.05.2022Air-to-water heat pump + underfloor heating + controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery - individually room differently temperature controllable?10
24.11.2023Heat pump: buffer tank, capacity and modulation46

Oben