Home financing ever possible? Probably not!

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motorradsilke

2023-03-22 15:10:54
  • #1
I never wrote that the employer should do this for free. And it is also nowhere written that the car should be made available as storage for other people. I am thinking more about one’s own supply. Charging the car during the day with photovoltaic, using electricity in the evening and at night. I don’t understand why it is not simply allowed. Whoever wants to use it will do so, whoever does not, won’t. Depending on the driving profile, one will be able to use it more or less. There really shouldn’t be a discussion about that.
 

RotorMotor

2023-03-22 15:25:14
  • #2

There are many reasons against it.

The one and probably most important is efficiency.
We already partly have too little (renewable) electricity, and it doesn’t make sense to further reduce this by charging and discharging losses. At low power levels, these can even be up to 30%!

Next is battery wear.
It probably doesn’t make sense to wear out the complex lithium battery in the car just to save a few cents.
Sure, one could say everyone can decide that for themselves; still, that doesn’t make it more reasonable.

And since over 60% of new registrations are company cars, the issue of personal responsibility becomes even more problematic.
Basically, the current subsidies are already highly questionable; if they are then also used to take electricity from the employer home, in my view that urgently needs to be stopped.

So here, too, it’s about setting aside egoism for a moment and thinking about what makes sense for us as a state.


um, yeah, you’re just deciding that now?
 

motorradsilke

2023-03-22 15:30:50
  • #3


Nope, that is my opinion.

According to your arguments, I also shouldn't install a storage system for photovoltaics. From my point of view, that is the same. Only that with bidirectional charging, I don't have to buy an expensive storage system.
 

RotorMotor

2023-03-22 15:46:40
  • #4

Ah, ok


Basically, I also think little of home storage systems, but this does not directly result from the arguments mentioned above.
These are initially mitigated in home storage systems:
a) only about 5% loss due to direct connection and optimization for this purpose.
This is due to the voltage, storage at room temperature (and usually) the direct DC supply from photovoltaic modules
b) it should be a Lifepo (yes, there are also cars with this chemistry, but rather rarely because it is heavier) that can handle more cycles
c) easier to replace than in the car
d) capacity loss does not lead to range loss
 

Nida35a

2023-03-22 18:51:41
  • #5

Yes, and that’s why it doesn’t get better.
Simply use smart meters,
when there is too much electricity in the system around 5 cents per kWh and when it’s scarce, around 80 cents per kWh for buying and selling.
If someone then charges their electric car at 5 cents and gives it back at 80 cents, everyone benefits.
The price would regulate that perfectly.
With the 6-8 cent compensation for private photovoltaic at any time of day, no one is motivated to feed into the grid.
It’s much more preferable to heat the pool, blow-dry hair three times, and run the washing machine at any time.
 

HausKaufBayern

2023-03-22 19:24:00
  • #6


Chernobyl was human failure and experimentation. Fukushima was greed because the protective walls were not designed for hundred-year flood waves as recommended but only for decades (?). Everything can be managed, and as I said, the technology has advanced by now.

Of course, nuclear waste is a problem, but I suspect we will have an answer to it in 100 years and then dig the waste up again.
 

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