Home financing ever possible? Probably not!

Yes, sure. That's why there are 3-5 scenarios in the IPCC models, because we know everything quite precisely...

You know... I am working in the field of automotive testing technology and even where we know quite a lot... AND can test in experiments... we have a high level of uncertainty in the digital twin. Forget about "we know it from models" ;)

We have assumptions... nothing more.

No question, they show us that we have to protect the climate... but this talk of "the truth" and "established findings"... no, that does not exist like that.

Respect. I am amazed at how well-informed you are here on the topic of climate change. Most citizens (and probably also [Klimakasper]) don't even know why there are summer and winter in [D].

New nuclear power plants wouldn’t have been necessary, but simply continuing to operate the existing ones. I still don’t understand why we put ourselves through this and why a black/yellow government came up with the idea.

100% safe? Just because no more errors could be imagined in the FMEAs, there will never be 100% safety.

Then no "forests [cleared] for wind turbines." If anything, firebreaks and clearings will be made in forests. We have genuine forests in Germany at most where you would have to land Elon's rockets with the wind turbine. The spoiling of landscapes has already been accomplished by monocultures and the extraction of fossil fuels in Germany.

Your alleged few clearings sound different in the Reinhardswald in Hesse... we are talking about 300 ha and 120,000 trees.

why exactly a black/yellow government came up with the idea.

That is only half the story, because exactly the same government had reversed Schröder's nuclear phase-out less than a year before. But back then, the CDU in BW was just on the verge of its first defeat, and Fukushima came on top of that very unfavorably.

Yes, of course. That’s why the IPCC models also have 3-5 scenarios, because we know all this very precisely...

You know... I work in the field of automotive testing technology and even where we know quite a lot... AND can test in experiments... we still have a high uncertainty in the digital twin. Forget about "we know it from models" ;)

We have assumptions... nothing more.

No question, they show us that we must protect the climate... but this talk about "the truth" and "established facts"... no, that does not exist like that.

Respect. I wonder how well you guys know the subject of climate change here. Most citizens (and probably climate clowns too) don’t even know why there is summer and winter in Germany.

But I also started as a physicist with a PhD in chemistry. With a high interest in the field. Everything else than well-founded knowledge would somehow be poor.


You are confusing models with the basics of the models. It is the well-known difference between quality and quantity.

Qualitatively, it has been empirically proven THAT and HOW greenhouse gases have their effect. It has furthermore been empirically proven THAT and HOW more CO2 must lead to warming (otherwise the laws of thermodynamics could be thrown in the bin).

But exactly how much warming there will be has to be modeled. One knows the “pure” CO2 effect: If everything else remained the same, doubling from 280 ppm to 560 ppm CO2 would lead to +1.2°C. What one cannot know at all is the timing of the emissions.
The consequences of warming in the future can only be modeled plausibly, what else? But one can already make statements within a corridor, the effect of more heat on known systems is not unknown.

Respect. I am amazed at how well you know the topic of climate change here. Most citizens (and probably climate clowns too) don’t even know why there are summer and winter in Germany.

Yes, I also find it positive that the discussion here is quite civilized and friendly. But now I would like to know more about the "tipping point" (or the "tipping points") that was/were responsible for the transition from the Medieval Warm Period to the Little Ice Age of modern times....