Home financing ever possible? Probably not!

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-16 17:16:04

xMisterDx

2023-03-19 12:48:35
  • #1


I would be interested in the calculation. If we assume 20 kWh/100km for your e-car, then you pay 11.80 EUR for 100 km. With the current fuel price of 1.809 EUR, you consume less than 6.5l/100km with a petrol car? With a driving profile where your e-vehicle consumes 20 kWh?

Never and no way...
 

-LotteS-

2023-03-19 13:10:10
  • #2


Our Renault ZoE consumes about 14 kWh in summer and nearly 20 kWh in winter... We do a lot of short trips and city driving with this car. We have been "refueling" normally from household electricity without a wallbox for three years now (and over this time the consumption numbers per season have been roughly the same), which cost us 30ct per kWh until the end of 2022 - our landlord has not said what the new rate looks like yet, hopefully not significantly higher. Where exactly is the electricity price brake again?
 

Bausparfuchs

2023-03-19 13:30:03
  • #3
Where does it begin and where does it end?

Particle separators in domestic heaters, stove licenses for fireplace operators, environmental certificates for fireplaces, and stricter regulation of exhaust values, so a de facto ban on older stoves. The same fate as with oil and gas heating systems.

Will we finally save the world climate then?

I think in 10 years there will be neither a green party in government nor the euro. We will have completely different problems.

And as I said, there is currently a debate about the 5 euro cucumber and other price increases in food. If we now use food as alternative heating sources, no one should be surprised. My neighbor is currently installing a grain heating system. Is this going to be the new trend? Heat instead of bread?

Biomass! Yes, where does biomass come from? Naturally, also from valuable arable land. Its energy is no longer supplied to humans in the form of food but in the form of heat. Pork is becoming significantly more expensive. Today twice as expensive as a year ago. It is logical when you prefer to let the feed corn decompose in the biogas plant rather than feed it to animals.
 

MayrCh

2023-03-19 13:39:53
  • #4
Professionally and privately, I cover 35-40,000 km per year fully electrically and only charge at >=100kW chargers. I've never "had to" charge for 59 cents/kWh. Sure, it's possible; but that would be the equivalent of the V-Power Racing from the highway interchange service station.
 

xMisterDx

2023-03-19 13:44:54
  • #5


When I drive short distances in the city with my diesel in winter, there’s a relaxed 8 before the comma. A gasoline car easily reaches 10 liters with such driving profiles.

You must not forget that the electric car recovers a significant part of its braking energy in stop & go. Unfortunately, this is fundamentally denied to the combustion engine.
 

SumsumBiene

2023-03-19 14:37:35
  • #6


When the hype about electric cars started, enough people said it’s not a solution for everyone and everything. The same with biogas plants or hydrogen and whatever else there is. Somehow everyone wants a jack-of-all-trades. It just (still) doesn’t exist.

And the ban on old stoves isn’t a surprise either, but a process that has been going on for years. It’s just annoying that installing a filter is disproportionately expensive. We’re already saving up for a new one.
 
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