Home financing ever possible? Probably not!

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kati1337

2023-03-21 18:12:43
  • #1


We have known since the 80s that we are ruining the environment and the climate by burning dead dinos.
Then standing there and continuing to do so for 40 years, not making sufficient efforts for clean alternatives, and then saying "it's the Saudis' fault, they dug it up" - that exact way of thinking is our problem.
 

Bookstar87

2023-03-21 18:20:27
  • #2
Do you have any idea what photovoltaic technology was like in the 80s? Or wind turbines? Where was the energy supposed to come from? Everyone wants to travel, heat, and consume.

How would you have kept up worldwide with the Americans, the Chinese, and others? How to convince everyone? Were scientific knowledge about the climate even that advanced?

Nuclear energy is now one of the best and cleanest energies. It's unbelievable what has become possible without much radioactive waste and CO2 neutral. Everyone around us recognizes that, only the Greens prefer to burn lignite. The biggest poison there is. Completely crazy!
 

Snowy36

2023-03-21 18:59:21
  • #3
I have dropped out of the discussion here since someone wrote that you shouldn't buy a Tesla anymore if you love democracy....

And this argument "if you're not happy with what others are doing, go into politics or just solve all the world's problems instead of complaining" is also not very constructive.

I am happy about my photovoltaic system, my electric car, etc. etc..... I originally just wanted to point out here that the "everyone must drive an electric car" idea is currently going down the drain just like the "everyone needs a heat pump" idea will also do.

The overall concept is missing. And I am not willing to give up my privileges like vacations etc. etc. when I see that others who are always talking about the climate fly to India to meditate. Either everyone or no one.
 

kati1337

2023-03-21 19:08:33
  • #4
Of course, the technology was not very advanced back then. But at that time, it was recognized that burning fossil fuels was a big problem. There is a news broadcast from 1979, still available online today, about the first World Climate Conference. They already knew surprisingly much back then. Therefore, the question is not how photovoltaic technology and wind turbines were in 1979; the really important question is: Why is the technology TODAY where it is and not significantly further ahead? To claim that there have been no massive failures would simply be nonsense. Of course, not only here but worldwide. But we are all in the same boat, and as long as we keep pointing fingers at each other, we will not prevent it from sinking further. I will leave the claim "without large amounts of radioactive waste" uncommented for now—we practically have no solution for the final disposal issue. It is alarming how much almost perpetually radioactive stuff we already have lying around and don’t really know where to put it. But: Maybe nuclear power is indeed the lesser evil to buy us the time we need to catch up on our failures with renewables and continue to work on storage technology. Because with nuclear power, disasters only happen in the worst case, and possibly at least locally limited. The global consequences if we continue to burn CO2, however, are definite and global. And I say this as someone with a rather green mindset. You don’t have to agree 100% with a party and can still like it.
 

Marvinius

2023-03-21 20:02:40
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Could the dinos perhaps only be dead because temperature and CO2 concentration massively dropped and the ecosystem at the time therefore massively lost "productivity"?
 

xMisterDx

2023-03-21 20:22:45
  • #6
Interesting perspective. So the Saudis are to blame because they extract the oil, not us because we burn it. That would also mean that Wüsthof is to blame if someone is stabbed with one of their kitchen knives.

And no... the dinosaurs are not dead because CO2 levels dropped, but because a global killer struck Yucatan about 66 million years ago.
 

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