Home financing ever possible? Probably not!

Buying green electricity sends a market signal to offer more green electricity. That is the benefit. Walking around yourself with a “100% green” label: just forget about it. That’s not how it works.

Our energy sector in Germany is already very much influenced by planned economy. Therefore, I have serious doubts that there can still be a working "market signal" here. It probably works as always in planned economies: a few enrich themselves immensely, there is scarcity for the majority, and the given purpose is only propaganda.

Hi,

Apart from the fact that if you care about the future of democracy and freedom of expression, you really cannot in good conscience drive a Tesla, and the Y gives me spontaneous eye cancer:

[*]1.5 t towing capacity? That might be enough for a trailer for garden waste or a pallet of stones. But for the caravan, I need at least 2 t.
[*]And even more importantly: how far does it go with that? The diesel pulls the big trailer with about 50% more consumption, so around 10 l/10 km.

Yes, it’s absolutely true that for most people, an electric car with a 300 km range is enough for 90% of all trips. But the last 10% is still an (almost) insurmountable hurdle. And no, with two small children in the car, I CANNOT stop and charge somewhere for 1-2 hours every 150 km. I just want to get the journey done and arrive.

Currently, I still see electric cars as clearly far from being able to replace the primary car. The second car, yes, absolutely!

I’m curious, 2035 is still a while away. But if the ranges haven’t improved significantly by then, it will end up with people driving less by car on vacation and rather taking the plane right away. Will that really help?

Best regards,

Andreas

I just tried it: To the airport and back is absolutely no problem with my electric car. During the 2 weeks it stood still, it didn’t lose any charge or range.

Hi,

Apart from the fact that if you care about the future of democracy and freedom of speech, you really cannot in good conscience drive a Tesla, and the Y spontaneously gives me eye cancer:

[*]1.5 t trailer load? That might be enough for a garden waste trailer or a pallet of bricks. But for a caravan, I need at least 2 t.
[*]And even more important: how far can you go with that? The diesel pulls the big trailer with about 50% more consumption, so around 10 l/100 km.

Yes, it is absolutely true, for most people the EV with 300 km range is enough for 90% of all trips. But the last 10% is currently still an (almost) insurmountable hurdle. And no, with two small children in the car I CANNOT just stop somewhere every 150 km for 1-2 hours to charge. I just want to get the distance behind me and arrive.

At the moment, I still see EVs as quite far from being able to replace the primary car. The second car, yes, absolutely!

I am curious, there is still some time until 2035. But if ranges haven't improved significantly by then, it will end with people traveling less by car on vacation and preferring to take the plane instead. Does that really help then?

Best regards,

Andreas

As soon as you start dealing with other things, the forum overflows with unread posts ;-)

So we now have 4 Tesla Ys, each as primary cars without combustion engine backup (company cars), 2 of them also as long-distance / high-mileage vehicles with 50-60,000 km per year. One of them with a tow bar and it will soon (as soon as delivered) regularly tow a caravan (small but nice for 2 people) from NRW to Sweden. Based on experience from other MY LR drivers extrapolated, it is expected to consume less than 30 kWh per 100 km at moderate cruising speed (<100 km/h) even with the caravan, which currently consumes around 16-17 kWh = about 400 km range!)

BTW: Tesla certainly does not do everything right, looks are also a matter of taste, but the Supercharger network is far ahead of all other providers, technology and price/performance in many areas far ahead of others (in my opinion). And whoever cares about democracy and freedom of speech in the future, what do they buy? A vehicle from the fraudulent VW AG group? BMW? Mercedes? Wow, I'm amazed… iPhones are certainly out then – right?
I personally don’t know anyone who, after the test drive with the Tesla Y, still found arguments for a combustion engine.

Sorry, but with such a lame defeat I just have to:

Because it’s fun.

There you have your one reason :)

That just shows once again what a flexible term "fun" is. When it comes to this topic, I always think of the game "Euro Truck Simulator." I wouldn’t even want to drive a truck for money, yet there are people who play this game for fun, or even more incomprehensible: people who watch others play this game on streaming platforms. For some, fun; for others, mental torture. :D

no, not another marketing victim! I have to bitterly disappoint you here: no matter what your supplier tells you, you always only get the current electricity mix from your charging connection because of the "stupid" physics. And in Germany this winter it was quite coal-heavy (often the second-highest CO2 production of German electricity generation after Poland) and will become even more coal-heavy from mid-April (guess why?). If your provider now tells you something about 100% green electricity, then they have "greenwashed" with the help of certificates (= financial products) and you (and unfortunately all of us) pay really "extra" for this "extra".

I don’t pay anything extra and don’t fall for any marketing either. In our district, more electricity is produced year-round than is consumed. This electricity is generated entirely from renewable sources. Since the share of biomass is relatively high, even at night. What is marketing or wrong about that now? This electricity is generated and also consumed. I’m also aware that the electricity from the neighbor’s biogas plant doesn’t reach me 1 to 1. But who tells me that it then doesn’t come out of the socket from DieselDieter? Right – no one. But in the end, that doesn’t really matter, since it is consumed. Or does this electricity just disappear into thin air? And again: the info about 100% electricity does not come from my energy supplier. Just search for electricity production Donau Ries. A lot has been invested here in recent years. Additionally, in the area of my electricity supplier there are several large hydropower plants that produce electricity year-round. Why buy certificates if you can actually produce green? Therefore, my answer to you: I really find your attempt at lecturing nice. However, I would be glad if you would move away from your aggressive attitude and just believe others sometimes.

sticking further on streets and breaking into airports.

Dangerous interference with road and air traffic. Punish the first trials with maximum penalties and claim all incurred costs in full.... You'll see how quickly there will be peace here!

Heating ban/renovation obligation: pay attention to the majority of the population and act accordingly... topic voter will... If Habeck pushes the matter through despite everything, I assume a clear vote of no confidence next time