Floor plan design single-family house (city villa 140 sqm) on a slope with double garage

  • Erstellt am 2018-07-13 11:06:26

Zaba12

2018-07-24 13:03:27
  • #1

Of course it is more expensive. Excavating the slope is not the cost driver. Transporting and disposing of the excess soil is. No company wanted to take 900 cubic meters from me for less than €20,000. The OP has even more.
 

kaho674

2018-07-24 13:06:23
  • #2

Thanks. *munch*
 

haydee

2018-07-24 13:10:46
  • #3
6 euros per cubic meter - 6 km distance. You do not get refilled and compacted for that. He has to excavate or fill and compact properly, preferably with a compaction certificate. Both cost money and he has to clarify that.
 

Zaba12

2018-07-24 13:40:55
  • #4
With us Z0 soil costs 22€ per cbm loose soil. Z1.1 the triple.
 

Climbee

2018-07-24 13:44:47
  • #5


Like so many other things.

Franky, sorry, but I, and apparently not only I, have now given up. We are here on page 73 of the thread and this is the 438th post. Unfortunately, I still can’t see any learning curve.

Good that you have internalized that you won’t make it with the originally planned €250,000. However, I am still missing some indication of what your price limit would be. But that’s not the only thing.

You come across like a little boy let loose in a candy store who wants to have everything he sees. Unfortunately, he overlooked that mom said: only two items!

That’s great and that’s nice and that would be super and it should be something very special, and and and and...

The suggestion was already made: sit down on the property and think about how it will be. What can you imagine, what not. I hope you have a bit of spatial awareness. A sloping plot is a sloping plot is a sloping plot. Period. Two parts, no more!
Furthermore, it must not be built with two stories. These are very clear specifications: slope, development plan.
So, with these requirements (Two parts!!! Listen to mom!!) one should look inside and make clear what works, what doesn’t, what I want, what not. That step is totally missing for me.
You are already building the roof, but you don’t yet know how the foundation should be.

Great if you go to the general contractors. But because that saves time, money, and work, they usually put exactly your inputs on paper. Innovation looks different.
I believe the question was already asked here: why don’t you go to an architect? You can also go to a general contractor afterwards with an architectural design.

At the beginning we bought almost all magazines on the topic of house building that we could find. Designer style with a high architectural standard, mass-produced like prefabricated house magazines, we went to model parks to see which room layout we liked, what we liked more, what not. To get a sense of proportions. We took the plot plan, and we don’t have a development plan, but §34, clarified where the house could stand, what dimensions are possible due to clearance distances. Whether we include the slope (we only have a slight slope) or not. Filling up, removing earth. For every possibility we came up with a very rudimentary draft.
We knew what we liked, why, what not, what depending on the draft would be nice, what compromises we would have to swallow for it. We thought about where we would sit outside, how far the paths to the fridge would be, etc.
And then the architect came. He initially didn’t want anything from our thoughts at all, but asked about our requirements and built his design from that. It was quite similar to ours (which of course made us very proud, we weren’t so bad after all!) but also had some really good ideas that I am very grateful for today. But I could also easily understand the ideas because I already had a very good feeling for the house and its location. Some suggestions by the architect we dismissed immediately because they didn’t fit (e.g. his first design was 3m longer, but we didn’t want such a huge box).
Today I’m sitting over the ever-improving plans for the working drawings and there are still details being changed. But it is still US who are responsible for it and I can now walk through the house blindly, I have spent that much time on the plans.

The entire last paragraph, I totally miss that in you. You see something, find it great, want it, exactly like that!
Wait, someone says, that doesn’t work for you, slope plot, right. Only 1.5 stories, right. Oh, you say, what a pity, that would be my dream house!
Half a day later you come with a completely different design, it’s so great, you want it, exactly like that, a DREAM HOUSE! What, the gable doesn’t work? Oh, what a pity!
Etc. etc.

Therefore my good advice before I dive into the chip bag again during the show here: get informed, look around, crystallize what you want. Two parts! Not the whole store. Devour print media, visit model homes, etc. Deal with the subject. You are still waiting for deliveries.
Or find someone to help you. They’re called architects. But even there, it will be you who has to make the final decisions and we come back to the beginning: even there you will have to know what you want. The architect might give you a bit more tuition by making sensible suggestions regarding property and development plan (but not all of them are brilliant). A general contractor with a draftsman wants to build, not design. If the standard draft fits, that’s fine (and those are usually not bad either), but you have a special situation.

At the moment you get a proposal from somewhere, whether it’s Kaho or a general contractor and you are delighted, great, super! Just like the next and the next and the next.
I don’t see a line, no basic idea, simply nothing. The general contractor will probably eventually despair too.

But if you want a result that satisfies you, you won’t get around the long haul of really digging into it.

Finally start.

Although: who will then deliver me my soap????
 

Wickie

2018-07-24 13:57:08
  • #6
: Hits the nail on the head. Couldn't have put it better! Maybe it will finally get through!
 

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