Defensive offer, or have house prices become so expensive?

  • Erstellt am 2022-01-06 14:07:54

kati1337

2022-01-14 14:03:48
  • #1
Now you really want to insult me, don’t you? :D :D :D That is of course absolutely true. I slept on it overnight and am still not finished weighing the pros and cons. An old building gets its charm precisely from the little quirks, a step here, a lot of wood there, the staircase, etc. But on the other hand, a 100-year-old house doesn’t accidentally have my “dream floor plan” – we really have to carefully consider whether we can transform the existing layout into one that suits us well. It already has a few good aspects that fit our requirements. But of course, you don’t want to make too many compromises. A few compromises, though. Yesterday evening, after my husband had already gone to bed, I sat in the living room chatting with my mom. It’s really nice to have the opportunity to do that. And in the long run, 1-2 times a year isn’t enough for me. :)
 

Costruttrice

2022-01-14 14:22:11
  • #2
I could have also imagined renovating an old building, my husband less so. But there was simply nothing that hadn't already been "renovated" in the 70s or 80s and had lost all its charm because of that.

Check out "SWR Room Tour," there are videos of special houses, including a beautifully renovated old building and a renovated farmhouse with a barn/farmstead. Both turned out great, I think!
 

kati1337

2022-01-15 15:33:57
  • #3
The weekend is over. We have definitely found an interim solution where we can stay for now while we either continue searching or renovate. We are not yet sure if we will buy the old building, but we are quite certain that we will sell and tear down.

The visit with the energy consultant revealed: the structure is apparently okay. What would need to be looked at is how or whether to insulate the facade, or whether to do interior insulation. Where the house is partially set into the slope, he would consider digging around to insulate and ensure that it is or remains dry.
He would not completely redo the roof structure. He said the beams could be reinforced in places, maybe replace individual ones if necessary, reroof and insulate. But it is worth preserving.
The water damage in the attic is not a big deal. The roof would be re-roofed and insulated anyway, and then replacing the drywall up there would not be a big problem.
He advises to redo the electrical system (which we would do anyway), possibly also the water pipes (which would not be such a big cost driver).
Because of the huge basement, he advises a pellet heating system, also because the stove in the basement provides some ventilation. He said the walls appear to be very thick and made of rubble stone (they did it that way back then), they are very nicely built and he would completely remove the plaster in the basement and leave the masonry exposed because it can breathe better and is also visually nice to look at.
A few steel beams in the basement are corroded / starting to rust on the sides in the earth; he advises reinforcing them. Insulate the basement from above. The floor plan changes we have in mind should not be a problem; he also sees the bathroom on the upper floor as feasible. He said he might not place the tub in the middle of the room, but otherwise the statics should work out. Although he said you don’t really know for sure until you have looked underneath somewhere.
As a very rough estimate, he gave us €1500 / m2 of living space as renovation costs.
He considers the purchase price of the property to be reasonable because the plot is also very large.
Overall, we will talk again next week. Pellet would not be the only option; he suggested others as well.
He said we could consider KFW individual measures or try to reach efficiency house 70, for example. He said a renovated efficiency house 70 would practically be not a huge difference from a new build KFW55, purely in terms of living comfort etc. He said in the old building there are simply thermal bridges that he cannot account for on paper. But even as a KFW 70 it would be a good standard to get the building to. Of course, I can’t judge whether this statement is correct.

How does this sound to you?
 

11ant

2022-01-15 15:42:22
  • #4
The introduction already sounds very good. The description of the inspection result as well, and in my feeling also credibly competent - overall, however, also reinforcing my suspicion that a building from the late twenties would rather refer to the extension.
 

kati1337

2022-01-15 15:47:32
  • #5
The main building is from 1928, the extension from around 1956.
 

Myrna_Loy

2022-01-15 15:47:45
  • #6
To me, that sounds more like pseudo-competence in the field of old buildings. And 1500 €/sqm is the price that has been regurgitated in every article on the web or in the newspaper for about 10 years, but which is far from any reality. You wouldn't have needed an energy consultant, but an expert for renovation.
 

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