Dishwasher fronts

1. Yes. 2. No, only with a special hinge, called Vario hinge for example by Siemens / Bosch. I do not want to rule out whether there is a manufacturer that generally offers 80 cm high fronts on a taller dishwasher.

... 2. No, only with a special hinge, called Vario hinge at Siemens / Bosch for example. I don't want to rule out if there is a manufacturer that generally offers 80 cm high fronts on a taller dishwasher.

Right, I completely forgot about BSH ... No, I am not aware of such dishwashers; the current niche dimensions for all built-in appliances have been established over decades, and no one is currently developing a platform because the quantities are too low and thus the costs too high. This is also a reason why Metod built-in fridge-freezers stand raised on a heavy-duty base rather than directly on the cabinet floor, as the niche dimensions are also established there. Maybe someday if other kitchen manufacturers also adjust the dimensions. One more thing: with dishwashers, the trend is moving away from semi-integrated models anyway, across all kitchen manufacturers, some more vigorously, some still somewhat hesitant.

Hello,

In my Miele assembly instructions, the max. door height for the xxl machines is 81 cm.

You can also view the assembly instructions online at Miele. Just select one of the xxl machines, go to Download, and then to Assembly Instructions. Unfortunately, I cannot integrate the link.

Accordingly, a Miele should be able to be installed in the Metod kitchen without having to use this new mounting device. I also prefer to attach the front directly to the machine door. In my opinion, the doors of the fully integrated machines are quite unstable even with Miele. They are supposed to gain more stability from the kitchen front, which is then firmly installed and not on sliding rails.

Best regards

Thank you! The same should apply to the Ikea dishwasher Enastaende. In the installation manual, you can see that the front is also mounted directly onto the dishwasher door. Regards Section Chief

As I see it in the instructions, the door is fixed at Miele and the plinth panel may need to be cut a little, while with the [Enastaende] the door slides up when opening.

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Accordingly, a Miele should be able to be built into the Metod kitchen without having to use this new mounting device. ...

I took a look at the Miele ...

Interesting what they are doing there, but I don't think it's that easy with Metod:
1. Miele has indeed revised the machine base so that it slopes upward backwards from the foot, allowing the tall fronts to fit, but ...
2. You already have to notch out the plinth at Faktum with 70 cm fronts so that the furniture front of the dishwasher does not hit the plinth.
3. This system is limited by the fact that there is only a limited distance between the plinth and the plane of the fronts, probably about 7 cm, which likely won’t fit with Miele.
4. The Metod plinths are PVC with a honeycomb structure inside and therefore probably cannot be shortened in height as easily as the Faktum plinths made of particleboard.

However, I cannot measure the distance between the plinth and the plane of the kitchen front in Metod to be sure whether it fits or not.

Just as an aside, it was a while ago when I had the chance to talk to a technician from AEG, who said that since AEG patented their sliding hinge, Miele has apparently asked twice if they could license it. AEG refused, and Miele apparently also stalled them at the time with their cutlery drawer ...

By the way, this is all irrelevant; whoever wants drawer fronts on their dishwasher, which is the whole point of the Metod system, cannot avoid connection rails, so it is also not attached directly to the dishwasher.