Dishwasher fronts

  • Erstellt am 2014-03-26 11:26:41

Bines

2014-12-13 22:40:56
  • #1
the SX76... must have a VarioHinge - otherwise the front measurements would not be specified as a maximum of 800mm. Also, VarioHinge is stated directly on the Siemens homepage - so it should be correct.

Since I myself will be assembling my kitchen from 2.1., I am facing a similar problem to most here. I would like to use a VarioHinge to avoid a possible problem in the first place. But I don’t see why that has to lead to a market price of >1200 EUR in connection with zeolite drying (I had it with the old dishwasher, I want it again). As already written, you are limited to Siemens in this combo, Bosch and Neff are out of the question. I don’t need AutoOpen and bells and whistles. So I am considering taking a dishwasher without a hinge and trying the Stefan method and if that fails, just taking the Behjälplig hinge from Ikea. Hopefully it’s not that bad.

My question: If I simply set the front 2.5cm higher, then of course the dishwasher’s buttons are initially significantly deeper. But how is it with the VarioHinge and Behjälplig? It is in the nature of the thing that the dishwasher also lies significantly deeper than the front from a certain opening angle, or am I mistaken? Then both solutions would have the identical disadvantage - namely that the fingertips are covered by the front when switching on - but only from the perspective of my 2-year-old daughter.

What are your general arguments against Behjälplig - if you have any? Is it less stable than VarioHinge? Saving 600 EUR for 30 EUR at IKEA is certainly an argument...
 

IKEA-Experte

2014-12-14 00:11:11
  • #2
I recently looked up the Varioscharnier in the Siemens spare parts and if I saw it correctly, it only costs 28 €. However, the exploded diagrams are not detailed enough to clearly understand the functionality. So there might be other parts relevant as well.

Jelimi used BEHJÄLPLIG on his Neff dishwasher. However, on that model, the front is still attached with 3 screws on each side. Other models have a different attachment. (You have to check in the installation manual.) Four brackets are screwed to the front. Two are located quite far down on the front. BEHJÄLPLIG will be too short to use these brackets. It will then be quite a makeshift job to get BEHJÄLPLIG attached.

In the former American ikeafans forum, English people reported that BEHJÄLPLIG broke quickly. But perhaps these were just initial problems, since METOD was introduced in Scandinavia a year earlier.
 

Excpt

2014-12-18 13:42:46
  • #3
Hi,

many thanks at this point for the helpful tips and experiences! They helped me a lot in the preliminary kitchen planning. I bought the SX76P030EU dishwasher directly with my new Ikea Metod kitchen.

Based on the Siemens installation instructions, it is still not quite clear to me how to attach the 80cm Metod front to the dishwasher. Nothing is mentioned about the Vario hinge there, so I assume this is simply the type of hinge and the corresponding clearance to the floor or the machine's support foot. You can't/can't have to adjust anything on the hinge, right?

If I align the front panel flush with the top edge of the dishwasher and then open the door, the panel hits at the bottom. (I only held the panel in place, haven't drilled or screwed it yet)
If I have understood the entries here correctly, I don't need any additional adapters like BEHJÄLPLIG for this machine and Metod front, and the front also doesn't have to be shortened.

Where is my thinking mistake? Does the front have to be higher than the top edge of the dishwasher? But then the dishwasher wouldn't fit tightly with the steam barrier at the countertop.

Thanks in advance for your help,
hope the kitchen will be finished before Christmas
 

lepole

2014-12-18 14:00:53
  • #4
Hello IKEA expert.
I am currently at the front of the dishwasher. I have the Vaglig from Ikea.
Is there a photo sequence showing how the installation takes place? Or can you describe it?
Regards lepole
 

IKEA-Experte

2014-12-18 14:19:53
  • #5
Hello, so far no one here has reported any practical experiences with the Varioscharnier. If I look closely at picture 13 of the assembly instructions, it looks as if the two lower hanging devices on the dishwasher door can move upwards when opening the door. That would mean the front would shift upwards a bit when opening. Whether it actually works like that or not, you can tell us.
 

Excpt

2014-12-18 14:38:34
  • #6
Hi,

I think you are right. I just didn't understand how the Vario hinge works.
But here you can see it quite clearly again:

Youtube.be/x4w9KXtbK9U

I will report how it goes for me.
 

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