Dishwasher fronts

Hi,

so, the Siemens dishwasher SX76P030EU (with VARIO hinge) in combination with Ikea Metod 80cm front works without any problems. No adapters such as Ikea Vaglig/Behjälplig are needed. The Vario hinge pushes the front upwards in a guide on the dishwasher door when opening.

How is it with your dishwasher front? Does your dishwasher handle the weight of the front? With our Bosch (which are very similar to the Siemens), the door is pulled down with such force (due to the 8kg heavy front) that I am afraid of damaging something in the long run if I do not guide the door down by hand but just "let it fall."

As it seems, our dishwasher also cannot be adjusted (door, spring tension).

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Hi,

the Siemens dishwasher SX76P030EU (with VARIO hinge) combined with Ikea Metod 80cm front works flawlessly.
NO adapters like Ikea Vaglig/Behjälplig are needed. The Vario hinge pushes the front upwards in a guide in the dishwasher door when opening.

I can only confirm this. Everything fit perfectly. Only the connecting rails (Vaglig) for a 2-front system could not be installed because the rails have to be screwed exactly at the points where the Siemens system must be attached. Flat irons from the hardware store help here.

[Quote]Hi,

So, the Siemens dishwasher SX76P030EU (with VARIO hinge) in combination with Ikea Metod 80cm front works without any problems.
You do NOT need adapters like Ikea Vaglig/Behjälplig. The Vario hinge pushes the front upwards in a guide in the dishwasher door when opening.

Can only confirm that. Everything fit perfectly. Only the connecting rails (Vaglig) for a 2-front system could not be installed because the rails have to be screwed exactly at the points where the Siemens system must be screwed. Flat irons from the hardware store help here.[/Quote]

Hello,

That already sounds quite positive.
Could someone here also confirm whether the Blankett handle, which is screwed from the inside onto the door, has enough space? So that the handle does not rub on the dishwasher? Is there enough clearance?

That already reads quite positively.
Could someone here confirm whether the Blankett handle, which is screwed to the door from the inside, has enough space? So that the handle doesn’t rub against the dishwasher? Is there enough clearance?

Should work. You can still adjust the dishwasher’s height after installation. Or when mounting the front onto the dishwasher, simply factor in or deduct the required "extra space."
Remember to attach the handle to the dishwasher BEFORE mounting the front.

So, after almost a month I finally managed to install my kitchen. I learned an immense amount about kitchen furniture and had to do many things multiple times, but Behjälplig was really no problem. Attached are also my experiences.

Background: I wanted to buy a large-capacity dishwasher and have a space of 90.7 cm up to the top edge of the countertop. I also wanted a 4 cm countertop, so up to the bottom edge 86.7 cm. The large-capacity dishwasher just fits in there. The Miele can do 80 cm fronts without aids, but that was too expensive for me. BSH has the Vario hinge, but the only dishwasher that was an option for me due to the combination of functions / energy / water consumption AND Vario hinge cost 1200 EUR instead of 600 for one without Vario hinge but with everything else I wanted.

I had hoped for the "Stefan solution," but in the end reality caught up with me and I installed Behjälplig. In retrospect, it became very clear to me that there were very simple mathematical principles behind it.

Regarding the Stefan solution: The front would have to be set so high that, measured from the bottom edge of the dishwasher, only the maximum allowed overhang of the dishwasher remains. In my case, that would only have worked with a normally high dishwasher, not with a large-capacity one. The rule of thumb here is: the dimension of the front minus the allowed dimension must not be greater than the countertop’s bottom edge minus the minimum height of the dishwasher. The dishwasher is simply placed as low as necessary, and filler pieces are used between dishwasher and countertop so that it can be nicely braced with the countertop.

Regarding the mounting of Behjälplig on the existing screw holes of the dishwasher: You simply unscrew the short screws from the inside of the dishwasher and replace them with long screws supplied with the dishwasher. These screws are actually meant to hold the front; with Behjälplig they hold the two wooden boards on the left and right, onto which the front is then hooked in with metal rails. Regarding the IKEA expert’s note that Behjälplig might be too short to use the lower brackets: Yes, that is indeed the case. I didn’t even use the lower brackets. The boards of Behjälplig could have been somehow extended, but that didn’t seem worth the effort to me. Even if you screw on a normal front to the dishwasher, the connection basically has to withstand tension mainly in the upper area of the door handle. Down below, no great forces act anyway. Therefore, I assume that Behjälplig will work with any fully integrated dishwasher.

By the way, the weight of the front is probably not the problem when using Behjälplig: My door really stays put at any angle. It is actually almost too stiff for my taste.

I also took a few photos (in my personal album; unfortunately, I have no idea how to link the photos directly in the post), so you can better imagine how it works.

Good luck to everyone who still has kitchen installation ahead!