Gas prices - Where is gas still affordable?

  • Erstellt am 2022-07-14 09:22:14

Marvinius

2022-07-14 21:38:32
  • #1
The fact is, we are now affording ourselves two electricity generation systems: the non-baseload capable and only very limitedly storable "renewables" and the fossil reserve capacities. Since in winter the renewables can sometimes generate 0.0 kWh for several days/weeks, the fossil reserve capacity must cover 100% of the electricity demand. This already has the unavoidable consequence that electricity here will always be at least twice as expensive as in a country that only has one, but baseload-capable, electricity generation system. And if you think "from the end," the renewables are actually just expensive and completely unnecessary for the paying consumer, but a real goldmine for the subsidy recipients (!!!Erneuerbare-Energien-Gesetz-Umlage!!!, which after abolition is now just less conspicuously financed from tax revenues).

The fossil reserve capacity must be very quickly adjustable with a high proportion of strongly fluctuating electricity generation from the "renewables." Gas power plants fulfill this requirement very well, coal power plants less so, and nuclear power plants actually not at all. This is – besides ideological blindness – also the main reason why the Greens are so vehemently against the extension of the lifetime of the last 3 nuclear power plants, as it would massively underline the redundancy of the "renewables."

Actually, the "DEUTSCHE ENERGIEWENDE" has driven itself into a dead end with the supply problems in gas, but it just takes a bit longer here until everyone understands that.
 

Steven

2022-07-14 21:58:01
  • #2

Hello Deliverer

I will do it step by step:
Fossil fuels are so expensive because the government has raised taxes and charges to exorbitant levels.
One liter of gasoline costs almost exactly 1 euro without taxes and charges (the raw material costs, profit margin, transport costs, etc. are all included). The rest is due to government policy.
Electricity costs significantly more because the subsidies for renewable energies are paid from it. And, of course, taxes and charges.

Steven
 

Steven

2022-07-14 22:03:01
  • #3

And continuing in the text:

It is indeed true that Mrs. Merkel, in deference to the Greens, has rigorously cut off Germany’s secure energy supply.
The only clean, secure, and cost-effective energy is provided by nuclear power plants. Germany was a leader in this. It was completely run into the ground. With all the currently visible consequences.
How many countries in the world forgo nuclear power and fossil energy and fully rely on renewables? Exactly one. Namely Germany. But we have already heard that saying, "The world will heal through the German spirit."

Steven
 

Marvinius

2022-07-14 22:19:36
  • #4
And geopolitically, an absolute nightmare has arisen for Germany.

We are dependent on China for the raw materials/components for the "renewables" (rare earths, solar panels), and on Russia for gas, the necessary fossil reserve capacity.

This is simply the dumbest policy in a long time. Probably actively promoted by people on Vladimir's or Xi's payroll. With Gas-Gerd we know for sure, others are probably more cautious.
 

SumsumBiene

2022-07-14 22:19:40
  • #5
Calling nuclear power safe is quite amusing. Where I agree with you is that Germany often takes the lead even if they are initially the only ones. However, that is not a bad trait per se.



How much do you consume?

In March, we had to renew at 16 cents/kWh. The whole thing then with a 24-month price guarantee and I hope that first the other prices, which are still significantly lower, will be adjusted.
 

Steven

2022-07-14 22:20:27
  • #6

And finally:
Climate change! I still clearly remember the bogeyman "forest dieback." For about 30 years now, there has been no forest left after those ominous warnings.
Then came the hole in the ozone layer, which was supposed to kill us all.
The Bild newspaper headlined in the year 2000: In 2013 the Earth will be uninhabitable.
And now comes the terribly awful climate change that will wipe everyone out. And only Germany has the insight. That is why we have to educate all other countries.
Though, I can't be too harsh on you about that.
I am already of an older generation. In my youth, there were about 5 billion people. Now there are about 8.5 billion. In the foreseeable future, there will be 15 billion. Resources are not inexhaustible. That must be the focus.
But we fixate on a gas that makes up 0.04% of the air and that humanity (all humans) can influence by 5%. The world population does not emit more than that.
And finally about the war: a state that influences a war party by supplying weapons is involved in the conflict. (the story of the Vietnam War is quite interesting there) Of course Germany also has soldiers in Ukraine. Trainers are needed.
A ride on the razor's edge.
One question: whom do the Greens want to send into battle? Gay generals or gendered soldiers? Believe me, we currently do not have a combat-ready army. In two or three weeks we would be bled dry. And the USA will use Europe as a testing ground for their weapons.
The experiment Germany has failed for the Greens. The population has to pay the price.
A good acquaintance has no idea how she will pay her energy bill for her rented apartment. And many millions of German citizens share that fate.

Steven
 

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