Gas prices - Where is gas still affordable?

  • Erstellt am 2022-07-14 09:22:14

RotorMotor

2022-09-11 11:14:07
  • #1

Because they stand for the only right cause!
The tipping points are coming closer and closer, we can no longer afford to wait.


That's how every party works. Some give more money away to the retirees, others to the rich, and yet others invest it in sensible environmental protection.
 

xMisterDx

2022-09-13 22:23:41
  • #2


The tipping points have long been exceeded. Therefore, geo-engineering will also be unavoidable.

I have been voting green for many years. But some insights still need to mature among my ideological friends. For example, the insight that gas can be stored in huge quantities quite simply and also produced green via Power2Gas... Electricity, on the other hand, can currently only be stored extremely environmentally unfriendly in tons of chemicals (battery) or space-consuming in pumped storage plants...

The green engineer has a H2-ready gas boiler installed... no heat pump... because he understood it...
 

sysrun80

2022-09-13 22:28:51
  • #3


I am also having a heat pump installed in the new building. What is important: water-based heating system. If it then comes to hydrogen or whatever...
 

xMisterDx

2022-09-13 22:35:43
  • #4


Matter of taste ;)
Lately, many refer to their heat pump with a photovoltaic system, which is supposed to make them self-sufficient during a blackout... they don’t know that they usually have grid-tied inverters that don’t work at all without a grid connection...
 

sysrun80

2022-09-13 22:38:45
  • #5


I understand. I rather want to point out that the cheap ones with the air-to-air heat pump will probably have less joy upgrading later. Possibly fuel cells and "home storage" for hydrogen will be sensible (= affordable) and mature at some point. Then you can heat nicely and still have electricity as a byproduct.
 

xMisterDx

2022-09-13 22:42:51
  • #6


I do not see the fuel cell as the method of choice. It makes more sense to burn hydrogen/methane directly in efficient gas condensing boilers instead of first converting it back into electricity with losses and then turning it into heat again via the heat pump...

Quite simple physics actually.
 

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