Recommendation digital heating thermostat

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nordanney

2020-12-30 13:57:18
  • #1
Then just think rationally about what it means for you to have a surplus of €15,000. If you were wasting €500 with gas and (unrealistic) €1,000 with electricity per year, you could easily pay the additional consumption from the surplus of the subsidy for about 30 years. However, CO2 taxes will work against you. And with reasonable planning, the "additional costs" will too, so that you will always be the "loser" with the gas heating.
 

Mycraft

2020-12-30 14:12:27
  • #2

I would be very careful here. Because the small surcharge suggests that the same assumptions and the same designs are made for gas and heat pump, and the surcharge is only the pure additional cost for the heat source.

But you cannot transfer it 1:1 and no general contractor will do more and spend more money than necessary. In other words, the heating design will (possibly) be intended for a gas boiler. For 3K more you simply get a heat pump but with the same hydraulics as for gas. From the general contractor’s side everything is okay, the house builder is just supposed to operate a higher flow temperature.

So I would ask very precisely and have the numbers shown to me for what kind of system would come into the house for 3K more.
 

motorradsilke

2020-12-30 14:22:28
  • #3

I have the designations of the devices. What should I pay attention to? According to the company, the system is already designed for the heat pump. How can I tell if that is true? And shouldn't the energy consultant pay attention to that, who should be involved for the KfW55 subsidy?
 

guckuck2

2020-12-30 14:33:28
  • #4


Please note the reservations in the fine print about changing levies and taxes.
As far as I know, this should already be included, provided the contract start date is already in 2021.


Wait and see. That thing was expensive and has to be paid for.
The problem with gas or electricity is not that producer prices rise/drop (drastically), but that public levies and taxes change. Mostly in only one direction, and these are politically prefigured significantly for fossil fuels.
We'll see.



Still, this can be clarified beforehand if you know that this is a relevant area that requires a little extra attention alongside window foil applications.



You have to ensure that the size of the heat pump matches the heating load calculation (which must be created and not just guessed). An oversized heat pump costs unnecessarily in acquisition and tends to short-cycle in operation. Ideally, it is a modulating device.

If you only want to "prepare" for a heat pump, the most important thing is the close pipe spacing of max. 10cm, preferably less in bathrooms, and the omission of additional radiators.
The entire system should be designed for a maximum supply temperature of 35 °C.

In case of a retrofit, it would also be practical to be able to simply mount the outdoor unit of the heat pump, e.g., by positioning the heating system in the floor plan so that it is located on an exterior wall and this remains or can be made free for an outdoor unit. Electricity can be retrofitted.
The position should also cause as little conflict potential with the neighbor as possible (possible noise exposure).
Alternatively, prepare the heating room so that it is suitable for an indoor heat pump. This means a certain room size and the possibility for supply/exhaust air with a fairly large cross-section. So here again an exterior wall or, in the case of a basement, two shafts should be planned and the noise exposure considered (I have a neighbor here who has both directed onto his own terrace. I am very curious how happy he will be...).
 

T_im_Norden

2020-12-30 15:01:03
  • #5
You are making an expenditure here of several hundred thousand euros and have to make decisions that cannot be changed later or can only be corrected at high cost.

I had decided for myself to familiarize myself with the trades of heating/insulation and electrical work at least to the extent that I can avoid the biggest mistakes.
 

Mycraft

2020-12-30 15:02:40
  • #6

The energy consultant is often just a rubber-stamper. I wouldn’t rely on statements from the overall contractor. Only on hard numbers. That means a complete heating load calculation and the planning of the system.
 

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