Floor plan draft for a 220m² single-family house

  • Erstellt am 2017-06-20 22:41:15

chand1986

2017-08-03 11:18:21
  • #1
About the airlock:

How often is the door to the garage opened and how long is it open? Answers: Not very often, but also not for very long. That little smell (why should it smell like gasoline, is your tank leaking?) should be quickly removed by the controlled residential ventilation system that you surely have. Ideally, exhaust air near the garage entrance.

Therefore: The airlock is more than sufficient.

A completely different thought: Any possible gasoline smell will disappear in the future anyway, since you will be driving electrically. Have you planned to have a three-phase power connection with enough amperage installed in your garage? Without that, I don’t think it will be very future-proof, as you certainly want to live in the house for 20 years or more, not to mention resale arguments. Electric cars need to be charged somewhere.

So a heavy-duty power line should be installed there right from the start!
 

11ant

2017-08-03 13:15:10
  • #2

You mean the draft from #265? - Apart from the non-functional basement stairs, there is no objection. My ground floor proposal was meant to demonstrate by what means the 213 sqm draft could be better solved than with the pillars in the living room. For the demonstration of what an upper floor matching the ground floor could look like, I logically had to refer to this ground floor. For this demonstration purpose, it is irrelevant whether your preference for the kitchen side of the house has meanwhile shifted to the "right."


It’s less about the single pipe than that including paths, shafts, and chases in the house planning would lead to what you actually want (but keep sabotaging with unsuitable marching orders for the planner): namely, organically arriving at a constructivist design. Because that is the only effective way to a “Bauhaus.” The path you are instead taking is this: you take a coffee grinder, twist it like a Rubik’s cube, and since the result is not a Bauhaus after all, you “rescue” it with too much makeup. That can not be healed by letting the kitchen jump to the other side of the house either. The kitchen at the front left was already the result of long discussions and was considered a good conclusion, without the beam problem—which the location of the kitchen had nothing to do with—it would have been built that way. Constantly reopening points of discussion already sealed off will bring winter before construction begins.


The hallway is a cuboid. Imagining a prism—glazed or galvanized sheet metal—on top of it is already too much for your imagination?


He is right. The 11ant recommends considering the “necessity” of a drive-in pantry. What you want to eat, you should also be able to carry. Eight meters detour against muscle atrophy is a fair deal.


You’re not serious, right?—The nonsense of driving cars with coal power and nuclear power just because they are nominally “clean” at the measurement point “exhaust” will not last twenty years. The future certainly does not belong to single-fuel cars, no matter which one it is.
 

chand1986

2017-08-03 13:32:07
  • #3


It's nice that everyone has an area where they really have no clue at all. I could explain to you why burning oil in a power plant to generate electricity for electric cars would still be significantly better than first refining it into fuel, which is then burned in individual, inefficient mini power plants (car engines). And I could show you that precisely in Germany, in the automotive "specialist" press (the word specialist is not put in quotation marks without reason), systematically false information is presented.

Nominally clean is walking on foot alone. It’s about being "cleaner than the old alternative." It would really make a difference if individual mobility were no longer tied to individual ownership of cars. That’s coming too.

The future of the car, however, will be purely electric, ranges will increase, prices will drop significantly, and in 15 years no mentally sane person will buy anything with an internal combustion engine, no matter exactly what is burned inside it.

But if you really want to discuss that, start an off-topic thread somewhere and invite me; otherwise, we'll just ruin the OP’s thread.

To get back on topic:


I fully agree with that.
 

R.Hotzenplotz

2017-08-03 16:23:26
  • #4


Exactly, that's what I mean. Now we're going into the details.

I have inquired about the basement stairs.



The discussion point about the kitchen was closed. The entire draft was finalized. But it could not be built. And the adjustments neither appealed to us in terms of the adjusted ground floor layout nor the adjusted exterior appearance. Therefore, some things inside and outside were started anew. I find that very positive if it can be built that way.



Yes. Unfortunately, I can't imagine that...



It is not absolutely necessary. But I also don't see a real advantage if we leave it out. It is a nice to have and not a must have. We agree on that. But the draft seems to fit. So why should I remove it now?
 

11ant

2017-08-03 18:26:03
  • #5
I also think that is good in the end - but in the self-discovery part of the process, I would not take the architect with you in your place. He owes you an approvable design - not to coach you as a personal trainer through your building ideas until you finally like the seventeenth draft. Therefore, I would not bother him now with something like this To gain four steps in length (which would be necessary to be able to enter the basement stairs at this point), the basement would have to be four steps (about 75 cm) lower than the ground floor. In my opinion, you can understand that without demanding the graphic proof. No, not to deliberately remove it. But not to put it on the wish list of a new design, and only accept it if it happens to come up again.
 

Traumfaenger

2017-08-06 23:45:27
  • #6
That would also bother me a lot, probably because we like to buy fresh and therefore frequently. If you buy rarely and "compressed" convenience food, it might be different. Therefore, this is more of an individual objection. For me personally, it would be a minus when buying such an existing property. Also, the terrace door of the kitchen makes no practical sense to me. We would not use it in this location. For us, it would rather be fixed glazing without a door; we could save that money. PS: The new design also lacks a utility room/pantry with access from the kitchen.
 

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