Floor plan draft for a 220m² single-family house

  • Erstellt am 2017-06-20 22:41:15

R.Hotzenplotz

2017-07-24 18:23:07
  • #1


I don't know. You can't see anything here and the ceiling has a clear room height of 2.65m.



If the garage is not there, nothing will stand there except a protective property wall. The house ends further to the left.

I spoke on the phone for an hour today with the new architect who took over the project in the client’s company as responsible from the independent sub-architect. He was not very enthusiastic about the idea of sitting down together at the computer and creating the planning live collaboratively, as he had not had good experiences with that. I suppose that has to be accepted.

We discussed the following points:

- Beams: I asked why a suspended ceiling could not be established. I apparently misunderstood that. It is possible to do it so that the ceiling is suspended, but then you only have a clear room height of 2.54m, which is not so great for this huge room. He suggested suspending the ceiling in the living area and leaving it open in the dining area. Then the beam acts as a light room divider. You then have different ceiling heights. I have to think about it. Since he will anyway revise the whole design again, we will see if something completely different comes out in the end.

- Flat roof / hip roof: I said that after looking at it for a long time, we actually liked the flat roof better because it fits better with the Bauhaus style. But we liked it exactly as depicted. He said that the visualization as depicted could not be built as is. There are components that in reality appear much more massive in the end. I don't even know if he meant the roof overhang or what exactly. He would have favored the hip roof in the design because it makes the house softer.

I introduced the idea that we insist on the strip (beam) from the garage to the front door and also on the roof overhang. A bay window is not necessarily needed and the different floor dimensions would not necessarily be needed either if that helps. He says it definitely helps a lot cost-wise if both floors are on the same level and use the same outer walls. I didn’t want that at the time because I thought such a suggested stagger would loosen things up. Meanwhile, I can imagine that the strip and the roof overhang are loosening enough. You just have to try it. I think he was very enthusiastic about this idea.

Regarding the original "final design," he said that he saw some formal things that he simply would not build. It was still quite technical, about the roof overhang, etc.

- Staircase: The 1.10m width as a desired specification for the staircase was brought up again by me.

- Utility room: Regarding the utility room, I addressed the smaller door. He said it was wide enough for a laundry basket and he likes to use differently sized doors also to better express the significance of rooms and their different importance. That point didn’t convince me much and I stuck to the wider door...

- Rough change ideas: I also brought up again my original idea that I posted here ( ). I said we don’t need the pantry and the huge kitchen. If in doubt, I prefer to walk through a small cloakroom from the garage with groceries to the right into the kitchen and an appropriate pantry integrated there.

He will now approach this very openly for 2-3 days. I am curious.
 

kaho674

2017-07-24 19:21:32
  • #2
The suspended ceiling would be modest. I wouldn’t have to think about it for long. Everything else is better.
That the architects design something that can’t actually be built like that is really disappointing. I’d be angry about that. And declaring the narrow door as sufficient is not exactly commendable given the size of the building.

Okay then. Let’s wait and see what he offers.

Maybe you could put a seating area in the large kitchen? I always find it really nice when the family sits together in the kitchen and chops salad. See?

Oh, by the way, I stretched it to 6.40m. Yeah.


 

R.Hotzenplotz

2017-07-24 19:51:56
  • #3
Not bad. Although you then use a lot of space for another dining area. But I can understand the idea. However, I wouldn’t want to go directly from the garage into the living room.

We’ll know more in 2-3 days. Let’s see what the architect suggests.

Above all, I’m curious about how the building will look when both floors are at the same level and the offset disappears. At the moment, I’m more concerned about the exterior appearance than about the room layout. For a room layout, we have many good options. It’s just the thing with the beams that bothers me.
 

kaho674

2017-07-24 20:45:41
  • #4
Was just confused. Your garage remained on the other side when mirrored.
The door has to go now. Understood.
The room layout and the view obviously have to come together. I also moved things around again. Please ignore if it’s annoying. As I said. It’s an addiction.

The pantry had to give way for an optimized view. Instead, a seating area in the kitchen + a wider hallway.
 

ypg

2017-07-24 22:13:34
  • #5
Nice ideas, although I'm starting to lose track [emoji4] One note: a landing staircase looks better if it is not separated by 2 rooms. Also, there is a basement involved here. For this house size and quality, please do not have access to the basement from the living area, but rather keep it nicely within the hallway segment [emoji2]
 

kaho674

2017-07-24 22:32:17
  • #6
I think TE definitely didn’t want the staircase in the living room to lead upstairs because of the noise. But you’re right, having the staircase direction the other way around would be the elegant solution in terms of the basement. But it’s just playing around anyway. The new floor plan will come soon. Until then, we’re just collecting ideas here.
 

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